I'll wait until the Adobe PDF one is out then and give it a go.

Kawal.



> On 4 Apr 2015, at 12:18 am, Tree Mabry <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Hey everyone, I wanted to make a few points.
> 
> First of all, Adobe claims that it is about to come out with the first ever 
> mac app that will give voice over users full access to tagged pdfs. You can 
> read more about it at the following link. 
> https://blogs.adobe.com/accessibility/2015/03/acrobat-dc-accessibility-update.html
> The update will be out in less then thirty days.
> Secondly, while it is true that PDF pin is the most accessible way to fill 
> out forms on the mac, it is not true that it is the only way. It is possible 
> for voice over users to use the current adobe reader mac app to fill out 
> forms. I gave a detailed description of how to do this on an apple vis form 
> post, hear is the link.
> http://www.applevis.com/forum/os-x-mac-app-discussion/how-fill-out-pdf-forms-adobe-reader-mac
> I also posted about the adobe update on apple vis last week, but that post 
> did not seem to get much attention. 
> Thirdly dealing with pdfs with tables. The previous poster is right that the 
> best option on the mac is to convert the pdf file to an html file. You can 
> then read the html file in Safari, just as you would read a web page. I have 
> done this hundreds of times for school stuff. There are several ways to 
> convert the file, but I have found that the best way is with abby fine reader 
> pro for the mac. Whats great about this option is that it will also often 
> create accessible headings which are great.
> If anyone has any questions about pdf's on the mac I can probably give some 
> helpful info. hopefully  the state of accessible pdf on the mac will b 
> radically different in less then thirty days when the Adobe update comes out. 
> Of course we don't know for sure if the app will be as accessible as they 
> claim, but if it is it will be a game changer for the mac. Perhaps one of the 
> most important accessibility improvements ever on OSX.                 
>      
> 
>  Friday, April 3, 2015 at 5:24:27 PM UTC-5, Gigi wrote:
>> 
>> I don't really know because I never had the version that was not the pro 
>> version. You may want to contact the developer and find out.
>> Gigi
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Apr 3, 2015, at 5:15 PM, jeffrey greene <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi I noticed PDFPEN PRO is $124.95. Can you fill out forms with the regular 
>>> PDFPEN?
>>> Thanks, Jeff
>>> 
>>>> On Apr 3, 2015, at 3:10 PM, Mary Otten <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> How about tables? Any progress on reading tables in an intelligible manner?
>>>> Mary
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>> On Apr 3, 2015, at 12:01 PM, Eugenia Firth <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> As far as I know, that is true. I will tell you that it works faster but 
>>>>> it doesn't windows. It calls up that file almost immediately and doesn't 
>>>>> take forever while it tags the thing or whatever it doesn't windows. 
>>>>> Also, if you get the pro version, one of the things you can do is to 
>>>>> convert your PDF files to text or Word files or Excel files. I have done 
>>>>> this.
>>>>> Gigi
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Apr 3, 2015, at 1:00 PM, Ray Foret Jr <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> In short, pDF Pin Pro is what would appear to be the most if not the 
>>>>>> only accessible way for a blind Mac user to fill out a PDF form yefs?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Still a happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone 6+ and Apple TV user!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sent from my Mac,
>>>>>> the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Apr 3, 2015, at 12:38 PM, Eugenia Firth <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi guys 
>>>>>>> I just filled out an IRS form 941 with PDF Pen Pro, version 7.1 and I 
>>>>>>> want to tell you guys about it. We can do it now because the checkboxes 
>>>>>>> work, not exactly like in Windows, but you can get there. 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I found the first one did not come up when I pressed the tab key, so I 
>>>>>>> had to read with VO arrow keys to find it, so it pays to read the form 
>>>>>>> first before doing it. In my case, I knew the form fairly well because 
>>>>>>> I used to handle employment tax questions. If I had not had that 
>>>>>>> experience, however, I could have done it ok if I had read through the 
>>>>>>> form first. So now I am considering firing my payroll company. I had a 
>>>>>>> bad moment when the IRS web site said 2014 on the place for the form, 
>>>>>>> but the form says 2015. At least on the IRS forms you can get the 
>>>>>>> braille copies, too. 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Gigi 
>>>>>>> 
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