On Jun 11, 2015, at 2:25 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland <[email protected]>
wrote:
Jonathan,
I totally totally agree with you! If we could get Eloquence on the mac, that
would probably be the happiest day of my life! I am one of those who falls
into the category you mentioned regarding Alex. I can use him, but I have to
keep it at the default speaking rate, and even then, with my hearing loss, I
have to pay fairly close attention. Especially if I'm reading say, an entire
paragraph or whatever in one chunk. Again, I can do it, but it's not easy.
I don't honestly know what so many people have against Eloquence. Even the
Vocalizer voices I can't seem to really understand terribly well. I can do it,
as I said, but not easily. I can't ramp Eloquence up very fast, but I
definitely have it slightly faster than the default both on my JAWS and my
Window-eyes.
I know that Eloquence is also available for NVDA, but not legally, so there
went that idea.
I know there is a port for Eloquence done by Tylor Spivy of Eloquence that
works on the mac, but it's a bit tricky to get it working, and is incredibly
incredibly unstable. I used it just long enough to see if it really actually
worked, but obviously took it off, 1, when I saw how unstable it was, and 2,
due to the fact it's also illegal. Even had it worked flawlessly, I couldn't
have kept it in good concience.
I agree though, if there was a way to buy a mac ported stable mind you, license
for Eloquence, for OSX, I'd do it faster than a blink of an eye! Darn straight
I would! It's really about the only synth I can not only understand, but
comfortably can listen to on and on for hours at a time.
Chris.
----- Original Message ----- From: "'Kevin Cussick' via MacVisionaries"
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To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2015 2:17 PM
Subject: Re: time for Apple to get a new default voice
Well I use Fiona Compact and have it as fast as I can and love it. but
each to there own.
On 10/06/2015 20:16, Jonathan Mosen wrote:
Hi Christopher. I think it depends on the hearing loss. I've worked with people
for example with a hearing loss who find Alex unintelligible once you go a
little above the default rate, but who can have compact Daniel cranked up
remarkably fast.
Personally I'd be delighted to have Eloquence on my Mac because Alex
mispronounces far too much for my liking. The moral of the story is the more
choice of TTS a screen reader company can offer, the better. Speech is
extremely subjective.
Jonathan Mosen
Mosen Consulting
Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
http://Mosen.org
On 11/06/2015, at 6:28 am, christopher hallsworth <[email protected]>
wrote:
Might be coming next year <grin>. Seriously though, I don't ever want Apple to
remove Alex. He's fantastic for someone with moderately severe to profound hearing
loss which I have. The other voices included are fine, but doesn't cut it like Alex.
On 10 Jun 2015, at 18:46, Shawn Krasniuk <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi Ray. I don't really want Apple to get rid of Alex. I lve the fact that he
takes breaths and everything. I am with you on one thing though, I hope Apple
considers making the Siri voices available in El Capitan. After all, you can
get them for NVDA in Windows so why can't it be done on the Mac?
Shawn
Sent from my White MacBook
On Jun 10, 2015, at 12:07 PM, Ray Foret Jr <[email protected]> wrote:
Subject line pretty much says it all. Nothing against Alex mind you: but,
frankly, I reckon it's high time Apple adopted a new and much more updated
default voice. The new Siri male US English voice might perhaps be a good
choice. Here's hoping we see this one in Elcapitan.
Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray
Still a happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone 6+ and Apple TV user!
Sent from my Mac,
the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in
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