Hmm, your way is a bit tricky but can be done if I got use to it, smile. But I think I'll stick to my way.
On 2009-11-07, at 5:52 AM, Donna Goodin wrote: > > I think my thumbs are a bit keyboard-impaired. :) I couldn't text > with them when I had a physical keyboard either. Just for grins, > though, I'll play around with that today and see if I can do it. Let > me know how you fare with my method. > Cheers, > Donna > On Nov 7, 2009, at 3:13 AM, May McDonald wrote: > >> >> Hmm, I wil have to see if I can do your method. Haven't tried that >> way yet. >> >> On 2009-11-06, at 6:22 PM, Donna Goodin wrote: >> >>> >>> OOOOOOh, the thumb! Now that never occurred to me. But I have fat >>> thumbs, so not sure how well this would work. >>> Cheers, >>> Donna >>> On Nov 6, 2009, at 6:44 PM, May McDonald wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> If you hold it just right you can do it with your thumb and pointer >>>> finger, that's how I do it. >>>> On 2009-11-06, at 3:26 PM, Scott Howell wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Well Donna, okay, now your challenging me to do this with one >>>>> hand. >>>>> Just curious, do you use a thumb and finger or do you use two >>>>> fingers. What I really want to do is hold the phone and operate >>>>> it >>>>> all with the same hand. Now that would be truly something to >>>>> learn. :) >>>>> Maybe I'll just have to find a way or grow an extra thumb. :) >>>>> On Nov 6, 2009, at 6:01 PM, Donna Goodin wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi Lindsay, >>>>>> >>>>>> One thing I would add to Scott's post is that you need to >>>>>> remember >>>>>> that the interface for the iphone is just different. I know that >>>>>> sounds like I'm stating the obvious, but it's something that can >>>>>> be >>>>>> forgotten easily when you are first learning to use the iphone. >>>>>> What >>>>>> this means is that often you have to find ways to accomplish >>>>>> things >>>>>> that are different from what you're used to. If you stay open to >>>>>> that, I think you'll have a good experience with the iphone. >>>>>> >>>>>> One thing I would mention since you asked about making calls, is >>>>>> that >>>>>> the iphone's equivalent of Speed Dial is something called >>>>>> Favorites. >>>>>> I have my phone set so that a double-press of the home button >>>>>> automatically opens my favorites list. Then I can simply double- >>>>>> tap >>>>>> the name of the person I want to call. Once you get over the >>>>>> notion >>>>>> that you want to press a button to call people in your speed-dial >>>>>> list, it is really every bit as fast and easy. >>>>>> >>>>>> The last thing I will say is that I have no problem at all split >>>>>> tapping with one hand, I just find what I'm looking for with one >>>>>> finger, and then tap with another. Honestly, I think this phone >>>>>> is >>>>>> easier to use one handed than were several of my Windows Mobile >>>>>> phones >>>>>> (I've never used a Nokia, so can't speak to that). >>>>>> >>>>>> HTH, >>>>>> Donna >>>>>> On Nov 6, 2009, at 5:31 PM, Scott Howell wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Lindsay, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> First I am new to the iPhone, but been a Mac user for a number >>>>>>> of >>>>>>> years. It is possible to learn the interface and how to >>>>>>> effectively >>>>>>> use the keyboard. Not all sighted people find the keyboard easy >>>>>>> as >>>>>>> well, so we're not alone. You locate the letter by sliding your >>>>>>> finger to it and tapping with the other hand unless you can tap >>>>>>> with >>>>>>> another finger on the same hand. It is a little slower, but >>>>>>> with >>>>>>> practice you can achieve a pretty good speed. In fact as you >>>>>>> get >>>>>>> more >>>>>>> comfortable, you reach a point where you nearly put your finger >>>>>>> on >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> letter your wanting; if that makes sense. I'm not familiar with >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> keyboard that is coming out, but any info you have would be >>>>>>> appreciated. Personally I don't know how a blind person could >>>>>>> get >>>>>>> off >>>>>>> a train, navigate to where they are going, all while texting >>>>>>> anyway. >>>>>>> Maybe I'm just getting to old and can't do all that stuff. >>>>>>> Now as far as the keypad on the phone, works like entering text >>>>>>> and >>>>>>> works great. I have generally used my contacts, so don't need to >>>>>>> use >>>>>>> the keypad quite as much. >>>>>>> Like anything, there is a learning curve and you have to be >>>>>>> willing >>>>>>> to >>>>>>> take the time to learn the device. My advice is go to the store >>>>>>> and >>>>>>> have someone turn VO on which is located under general/ >>>>>>> accessibility. >>>>>>> TO be kind to the next person, you might first have them set the >>>>>>> triple-click option first to toggle VO on/off so in the event >>>>>>> you >>>>>>> can't turn it off, at least three clicks of the home button will >>>>>>> return the phone to the non-VO state. Also, listen to some >>>>>>> podcasts >>>>>>> at http://www.maccessibility.net, http:// >>>>>>> www.screenlessswitchers.com, >>>>>>> and http://www.blindworldblog.com. i might have the last >>>>>>> address >>>>>>> wrong, but the other two sites will provide you some information >>>>>>> as >>>>>>> well. Apple also has links to the accessibility manual on their >>>>>>> site >>>>>>> and you can find a link from Maccessibility.net as well. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Good luck, >>>>>>> On Nov 6, 2009, at 3:31 PM, Lindsay Yazzolino wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi Everyone, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I am currently in the process of deciding whether to purchase >>>>>>>> either a >>>>>>>> Nokia or an iPhone aftre recently misplacing my Nokia N82, and >>>>>>>> have a >>>>>>>> couple of questions for those of you who are using the latter. >>>>>>>> How >>>>>>>> easy is it to dial and text using the iPhone? I know I can't by >>>>>>>> any >>>>>>>> means be the first person to ask this question, and I am aware >>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>> one can fairly use voice dial and the contacts list. Feel free >>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>> call >>>>>>>> me old-fashioned, but I personally hate talking to my phone, >>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>> do >>>>>>>> not want to become primarily dependent on my contacts list as >>>>>>>> an >>>>>>>> alternative to memorizing most of my numbers. I also often text >>>>>>>> on >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> go, and do not want to lose this ability. I am a fairly new Mac >>>>>>>> user, >>>>>>>> and am impressed with the iPhone for several reasons, including >>>>>>>> its >>>>>>>> support for VoiceOver and a plethora of applications, as well >>>>>>>> as >>>>>>>> its >>>>>>>> its ability to easily synchronize with my Mac. As great as this >>>>>>>> new >>>>>>>> piece of technology is, however, my number 1 priority in >>>>>>>> purchasing a >>>>>>>> phone is that I can, first and foremost, efficiently use it >>>>>>>> as a >>>>>>>> phone, which is why I'm interested to hear about others' >>>>>>>> experiences >>>>>>>> with the iPhone. I recently attended a demo of the iPhone, in >>>>>>>> which >>>>>>>> the presenters spent almost the entire time discussing >>>>>>>> applications, >>>>>>>> but, when asked how to make calls, said that the dial pad is >>>>>>>> somewhat >>>>>>>> slow to use with VoiceOver. One of the presenters also >>>>>>>> mentioned >>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>> it is difficult for him to text on the go, such as when he is >>>>>>>> switching trains, unless he can use the phone with both hands >>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>> background noise is minimal. For this reason, I am hesitant to >>>>>>>> run >>>>>>>> out >>>>>>>> to the store and spend $400 on an iPhone, in addition to the >>>>>>>> monthly >>>>>>>> data plan, unless I can be sure that it will meet my needs. >>>>>>>> Also, >>>>>>>> does >>>>>>>> anyone know anything about the iTwinge attachable keyboard >>>>>>>> which >>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>> soon to be released? I'm wondering if this may enable me to >>>>>>>> better >>>>>>>> use >>>>>>>> the dialing/texting functionality of the phone >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks in advance for any input! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Lindsay >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>>> >> >> >>> >> > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
