Hi Dona, I wonder what the cause of this is.  I haven’t had any issues with 
mail and I didn’t do anything special on the install side, not even a fresh 
install.

> On Oct 1, 2015, at 1:03 PM, Donna Goodin <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Hi Mary,
> 
> The one that bugs me the most on a day-to-day basis is the one pertaining to 
> mail messages.  It's very rare that I open a message and just get to read it. 
>  I very often have to open and close it several times.
> 
> there were others I noticed, I think pertaining to the Safari busy. and 
> having to show and hide the reader a couple of times.  But the mail one is 
> the bug that really drives me crazy.
> Take care,
> Donna
> 
>> On Oct 1, 2015, at 11:35 AM, Mary Otten <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Donna,
>> I would be curious which of Alex's bugs you experienced in Yosemite. Some of 
>> the ones I recall reading on his list I am certainly not experiencing, and 
>> those are some of the more serious ones. Audio ducking doesn't much concern 
>> me. But the web stuff, getting stuck on webpages, the problems with the 
>> neuance   etc., those do concern me a lot.
>> Mary
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Oct 1, 2015, at 4:45 AM, Donna Goodin <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> I finally had a minute to read Alex's bugs list.  I thought it worth 
>>> mentioning that many of those bugs are bugs I'm currently experiencing in 
>>> Yosemite.  so, while I confess I was hoping they would be fixed in el 
>>> Capitán, these are not new bugs, just old ones that didn't get fixed.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Donna
>>>> On Sep 30, 2015, at 12:56 PM, Alex Hall <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi all,
>>>> Just a note to say that El Capitan has been released. I compiled a bug 
>>>> list for AppleVis which I strongly recommend everyone looks at, as there 
>>>> are some pretty major problems on there. I also wrote a blog, and did a 
>>>> podcast, covering the new features in VoiceOver. Links:
>>>> 
>>>> Bug List:
>>>> http://www.applevis.com/blog/mac-os-x-news/accessibility-bugs-os-x-1011-el-capitan-serious-minor
>>>> 
>>>> New Features Blog:
>>>> http://www.applevis.com/blog/assistive-technology-mac-os-x-news/whats-new-os-x-1011-el-capitan-voiceover-users
>>>> 
>>>> New Features Podcast:
>>>> http://www.applevis.com/podcast/episodes/exploring-some-new-accessibility-features-os-x-1011-el-capitan
>>>> 
>>>> I realized, in reading this email back, that it might come off as a little 
>>>> arrogant. I don't mean it that way, I just wanted to give people a single 
>>>> place to get some coverage about the new OS, and those are the only 
>>>> accessibility-centric sources I know of for now.
>>>> 
>>>> --
>>>> Have a great day,
>>>> Alex Hall
>>>> [email protected]
>>>> 
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