Okay, that makes sense, and I remember thinking the same thing during my brief flirtation with braille on OS X years back. Dots 7 and 8 seems like a great way to highlight text in braille, until you actually try to read it. Then it just slows you down and is plain distracting. I think you can turn it off, but how else might Apple indicate VO focus to braille users? > On Oct 5, 2015, at 20:55, Devin Prater <[email protected]> wrote: > > For me, at least, having to feel dots 7 and 8 just to know where the cursor > is is just not what I'd like. For example, when I'm in a dialog, and > voiceover focus is on the text of the dialog, its hard to read with dots 7 > and 8 in the way. I'd like the mac braille implimentation to be more like the > iPhone, or at least have the choice. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Oct 5, 2015, at 7:42 PM, Alex Hall <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > >> Can you explain a bit more about the VoiceOver cursor and dots 7 and 8? How >> does the use of dots 7 and 8 pose a problem, and what does the VO cursor >> indicate or not indicate that you would like changed? I'm just not following >> this one, and I want to be sure I explain it correctly in the list I'm >> compiling. Thanks. >>> On Oct 5, 2015, at 17:54, Devin Prater <[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>> >>> My biggest problem is that I cannot read formatting information, like >>> italics and bold. For example, on a webpage, if something is italicized, >>> VoiceOver just puts it in a new element, and doesn't show that it is >>> formatted any differently in braille. Another problem is that we can't >>> change the fact that braille shows more than the voiceover cursor, and the >>> only way to know what truely is in the cursor is to have the annoying dots >>> 7 and 8 showing. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On Oct 5, 2015, at 4:49 PM, E.T. <[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>> >>>> I am posting a new thread in the hopes of starting a "focused" >>>> discussion of the braille support in OS X. >>>> >>>> What I mean by "focused" is this. What exactly, specifically, are the >>>> shortcomings of OS X's braille support. I need to know this for two >>>> reasons. One, to better use this personally, and two, to better >>>> communicate it to Apple. Many of you have your gripes with this but it >>>> will be more effective if we can stay on track. >>>> >>>> I am not as proficient as I would like to be with both braille and OS X >>>> so please lets not deviate from the mission. This is about braille support >>>> in OS X. Thanks. >>>> >>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard... >>>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>>> Many believe that we have been visited >>>> in the past. 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