Well, as I said, they could just do as they do on the iPhone. Or they could have a full cell enclosing the text of the voiceover cursor, as the braille sense does with selected text.
Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 5, 2015, at 8:04 PM, Alex Hall <[email protected]> wrote: > > Okay, that makes sense, and I remember thinking the same thing during my > brief flirtation with braille on OS X years back. Dots 7 and 8 seems like a > great way to highlight text in braille, until you actually try to read it. > Then it just slows you down and is plain distracting. I think you can turn it > off, but how else might Apple indicate VO focus to braille users? >> On Oct 5, 2015, at 20:55, Devin Prater <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> For me, at least, having to feel dots 7 and 8 just to know where the cursor >> is is just not what I'd like. For example, when I'm in a dialog, and >> voiceover focus is on the text of the dialog, its hard to read with dots 7 >> and 8 in the way. I'd like the mac braille implimentation to be more like >> the iPhone, or at least have the choice. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Oct 5, 2015, at 7:42 PM, Alex Hall <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Can you explain a bit more about the VoiceOver cursor and dots 7 and 8? How >>> does the use of dots 7 and 8 pose a problem, and what does the VO cursor >>> indicate or not indicate that you would like changed? I'm just not >>> following this one, and I want to be sure I explain it correctly in the >>> list I'm compiling. Thanks. >>>> On Oct 5, 2015, at 17:54, Devin Prater <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> My biggest problem is that I cannot read formatting information, like >>>> italics and bold. For example, on a webpage, if something is italicized, >>>> VoiceOver just puts it in a new element, and doesn't show that it is >>>> formatted any differently in braille. Another problem is that we can't >>>> change the fact that braille shows more than the voiceover cursor, and the >>>> only way to know what truely is in the cursor is to have the annoying dots >>>> 7 and 8 showing. >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>>> On Oct 5, 2015, at 4:49 PM, E.T. <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I am posting a new thread in the hopes of starting a "focused" >>>>> discussion of the braille support in OS X. >>>>> >>>>> What I mean by "focused" is this. What exactly, specifically, are the >>>>> shortcomings of OS X's braille support. I need to know this for two >>>>> reasons. One, to better use this personally, and two, to better >>>>> communicate it to Apple. Many of you have your gripes with this but it >>>>> will be more effective if we can stay on track. >>>>> >>>>> I am not as proficient as I would like to be with both braille and OS X >>>>> so please lets not deviate from the mission. This is about braille >>>>> support in OS X. Thanks. >>>>> >>>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard... >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> Many believe that we have been visited >>>>> in the past. 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