I completely agree with you Scott,

Especially where the Mac Mail application is concerned.  I would argue that 
Mail is as good as it has ever been.  I have said it before and I'll say it 
again, were it not for the Mac Mail application, there is no way I could 
conceivably manage so many email messages so effortlessly.  Like you, Soctt, I 
do not use the classic view.  

Mark

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] 
On Behalf Of Scott Granados
Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2015 11:49 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: From Yosemite to El Capitan and Back: One New User's Story

The bugs you mentioned were solved in 10.11.1 or so my experience so far has 
seemed to indicate.  Definitely safari is working better and I never had mail 
issues but I don’t use the classic view.  Either way, mail is functioning 
nicely under 10.11.1 on this side anyway.


> On Oct 22, 2015, at 2:46 PM, Craig Werner <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Hello, everyone.
> 
> As a MacBook Air user of just under three months, I am posting a 
> little tale about my brief experience upgrading to El Capitan.  I do 
> this for two reasons: to acquaint new users thinking of upgrading with 
> one rookie's experience and perhaps to generate a bit of commentary 
> from more experienced users.
> 
> As someone who has come up through the ranks of CP/M, MS-DOS, Windows, 
> and Apple iOS, I am no newcomer to the world of computers.  In July, I 
> bought a MacBook Air, which came with Yosemite 10.10.3, which I 
> upgraded to 10.10.5 in early September.  I love reading documentation, 
> so I threw myself happily into reading lots of VoiceOver and OS X 
> resources, including Tim Sniffen's and Janet Ingber's books, AppleVis 
> posts, and various podcasts, supplemented by generous chunks of David 
> Pogue's _Yosemite: the Missing Manual_.  The learning curve was steep, 
> but I almost enjoyed my first few weeks.  Troubled by some bugs, 
> notably in Mac Mail, I wondered if I should upgrade to El Capitan.
> Years and years of caution prompted my inner voice to urge me to stay 
> put and be patient as I learned; but one day in October, I took the 
> plunge.  Buoyed by my success at upgrading, I started to play with El 
> Capitan only to discover within a few minutes that not only were the 
> Mail bugs still present but also Safari often displayed a "busy"
> status at times when performing the same operations in Yosemite 
> produced happier results.
> 
> I decided to return to Yosemite 10.10.5, so, urged on by an Apple 
> Accessibility rep who told me I could downgrade without a bootable 
> drive, I decided to use Internet Recovery to restore the OS that came 
> with the machine.  Something went wrong during the attempt to 
> downgrade, and the Mac refused to acknowledge my router.  A couple of 
> earnest attempts by Apple Accessibility personnel to help the machine 
> recover failed, and I decided to take the computer into the nearby 
> Apple Store for a clean install.  The bottom line is that the machine 
> has been restored to its Day One state, so to speak, and I am quite 
> content to wallow in Yosemite for the time being.
> 
> My point is simple: if you're new to this game, consider carefully 
> whether the advantages you may gain when trying to upgrade are worth 
> the risk.  Better to learn carefully what you don't know now than to 
> add more layers which you may not have bargained for.
> 
> Some of you might be wondering why you have bothered to read something 
> so self-evident.  All I can say is temptation doesn't always yield 
> beneficial results.  At the risk of stating the obvious, I have stated 
> the obvious.  <grin>
> 
> Craig
> 
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