Mark and others,

What even exactly is! the difference from the standard and the classic views anyway, if you don't mind me asking.

Chris.

----- Original Message ----- From: "M. Taylor" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2015 3:28 PM
Subject: RE: From Yosemite to El Capitan and Back: One New User's Story


I completely agree with you Scott,

Especially where the Mac Mail application is concerned. I would argue that Mail is as good as it has ever been. I have said it before and I'll say it again, were it not for the Mac Mail application, there is no way I could conceivably manage so many email messages so effortlessly. Like you, Soctt, I do not use the classic view.

Mark

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Scott Granados
Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2015 11:49 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: From Yosemite to El Capitan and Back: One New User's Story

The bugs you mentioned were solved in 10.11.1 or so my experience so far has seemed to indicate. Definitely safari is working better and I never had mail issues but I don’t use the classic view. Either way, mail is functioning nicely under 10.11.1 on this side anyway.


On Oct 22, 2015, at 2:46 PM, Craig Werner <[email protected]> wrote:

Hello, everyone.

As a MacBook Air user of just under three months, I am posting a
little tale about my brief experience upgrading to El Capitan.  I do
this for two reasons: to acquaint new users thinking of upgrading with
one rookie's experience and perhaps to generate a bit of commentary
from more experienced users.

As someone who has come up through the ranks of CP/M, MS-DOS, Windows,
and Apple iOS, I am no newcomer to the world of computers.  In July, I
bought a MacBook Air, which came with Yosemite 10.10.3, which I
upgraded to 10.10.5 in early September.  I love reading documentation,
so I threw myself happily into reading lots of VoiceOver and OS X
resources, including Tim Sniffen's and Janet Ingber's books, AppleVis
posts, and various podcasts, supplemented by generous chunks of David
Pogue's _Yosemite: the Missing Manual_.  The learning curve was steep,
but I almost enjoyed my first few weeks.  Troubled by some bugs,
notably in Mac Mail, I wondered if I should upgrade to El Capitan.
Years and years of caution prompted my inner voice to urge me to stay
put and be patient as I learned; but one day in October, I took the
plunge.  Buoyed by my success at upgrading, I started to play with El
Capitan only to discover within a few minutes that not only were the
Mail bugs still present but also Safari often displayed a "busy"
status at times when performing the same operations in Yosemite
produced happier results.

I decided to return to Yosemite 10.10.5, so, urged on by an Apple
Accessibility rep who told me I could downgrade without a bootable
drive, I decided to use Internet Recovery to restore the OS that came
with the machine.  Something went wrong during the attempt to
downgrade, and the Mac refused to acknowledge my router.  A couple of
earnest attempts by Apple Accessibility personnel to help the machine
recover failed, and I decided to take the computer into the nearby
Apple Store for a clean install.  The bottom line is that the machine
has been restored to its Day One state, so to speak, and I am quite
content to wallow in Yosemite for the time being.

My point is simple: if you're new to this game, consider carefully
whether the advantages you may gain when trying to upgrade are worth
the risk.  Better to learn carefully what you don't know now than to
add more layers which you may not have bargained for.

Some of you might be wondering why you have bothered to read something
so self-evident.  All I can say is temptation doesn't always yield
beneficial results.  At the risk of stating the obvious, I have stated
the obvious.  <grin>

Craig

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