Well I’ve been riveted watching this all day, I’m going on 24 hours here, it’s 
also a welcome distraction to some really really bad stuff happening on my 
family level right now so forgive me if I use your country’s politics as a 
distraction.:)  My grandmother oddly enough who is the connection to Britain 
for me passed after 96 years on this rock and it’s all closing in on me now 
that I am only one of 3 left in our family and the other 2 are on the shorter 
end of their lives than longer so I’m feeling a bit freaked out and my numbers 
are dwindling down to 0 so if I get in the weeds you get it.
        To give you an idea why I feel such a connection with your country my 
family on my mother’s side came to this country fairly recently.  My grand 
mother and grand father came over to this country on boats I believe before 
world war 2 and settled on the east coast as well as Detroit.  My great Grand 
father, mother’s grand father actually worked on your crown jewels.  I have 
jewelers drawings hand made by him used to create some of the items in your 
tower of London today.  I’ve frequently thought about giving them to one of 
your museums if you’d have them but I have no idea their value or if they 
represent any thing special to the British people or even what or who should 
have them.  It’s this man’s daughter, my grand mother who passed this morning.  
She taught me so much about your part of the world from your money to telling 
me stories about my cousins who I don’t know but sell fruit in fruit stands 
somewhere in London or another husband and wife relation of ours who I met once 
years ago and don’t know exactly how they fit but they own a sweater company in 
Scotland.  I remember these people coming to visit us and my Grand Father who 
is from Whales loved taking them to sites around the north east US where we 
americans beat back the British during the Revolution.:)  He loved giving the 
English side of our family a real ribbing about the revolution when they would 
come to visit. In the same breath though, my grandfather served during World 
War II and I know always talked about the Brits he served proudly with.  
        I say all this because I’m not the only one.  So many of us have such 
connections to your island.  So understand when you say all in together and all 
that, I consider very much we folks on both sides of the pond on the same team.
        BTW, BBC and ITV just called it in favor of leaving  I’m shocked but 
you’ve definitely made things interesting over here.  Your vaporizing my 
financial holdings as I watch this, thanks guys☺, but I’m in, I wish we could 
shake off our oppressive federal government like you all just did the EU.  The 
rebel in me feels a real connection to your side right now.  Not for racial 
reasons, not for fear of any group but for self determination, self rule, 
beating back the huge corporate and global interests that do not have your 
country’s best interest at heart.  I know the economic arguments made against 
you leaving and I say bunk.  You’re a strong country, you do not need the 
approval of brussels to get through your day.  The UK alone is a massive 
economy, thankfully you never wrapped your self in the Euro so your pound will 
carry on.  I will buy many of your pounds when they tank over the next few days 
because the fears are irrational and I will do well as will you all doubling 
down on yourselves.
        So folks in Florida or Texas, if you wish to break away from the union 
let me know, I’ll move down and join you.:)  I feel like blasting dixie and 
blasting a few hundred rounds in the air in celebration of someone, finally, 
beating back the powers of globalization and centralization of regulation with 
out representation.  In stead so I don’t get labeled a racist or arrested for 
making to much noise or being armed in the US I will hoist a cold one in your 
country’s honor.


To my Grand Mother Jean and to the fine people of Britain, stay or leave, way 
to go!  Nicely done and all that on all counts. I drink a Sam Adams beer from 
the Boston Brewing company in your honor.  The irony is not lost on me nor is 
it lost o nme that I’m siding with the tories.:) 


And the associated press just called it and someone is pounding on Borris 
Johnson’s door trying to wake him up.  Great stuff!

CNBC just called it in favor of leave also.

Wow, I’m shocked!

On 6/23/16, 6:11 PM, "Sabahattin Gucukoglu" <[email protected] on 
behalf of [email protected]> wrote:

Mmm, your president does seem to have quite a fascination with teats, doesn’t 
he? :)

Regardless, I imagine his comments did more to inflame the Brexiters than to 
encourage the Bremainers.  But, as it happens, I too hope to remain.  The worst 
part about it is that it’s based more or less purely on pragmatism rather than 
principle: the far-right government now in power will only use Brexit to lurch 
even further to the right, without our delightful, if meddlesome, friends in 
Brussels to prevent them by (undemocratically, it’s true) arriving at sensible 
and socially just policy decisions on the merits.  The hypothetical independent 
state of Britain, in a climate of establishment neoliberalism and 
first-past-the-post voting, seems distantly unlikely.  And as a believer in 
more EU unification in any event (Turkish parents), I can’t say I feel too bad 
about that.  Better together, and all that jazz. :)

Still, I do wonder what that hypothetical Britain, under the rule of a 
democratically elected liberal government, would look like.  It’d be cosy, but 
would it make me happy?  Initially, probably.  Maybe we could make it work at 
the negotiating tables where decisions are made.  But I’d feel bad for the 
other EU member states, and the project.  We’d be turning away everything it, 
and all of the men, women and children in its member states, represent.  My 
individualistic side says it makes no difference as long as I’m living in the 
exact same country; my squidgy insides say otherwise.  No, the EU isn’t a 
utopia, but by remaining, at least we can fix its faults, which is something a 
lot of Brexiters seem completely reluctant to take any interest in doing.  And 
maybe we can one day look forward to a truly united Europe.

So maybe it is about principle, after all. :)

Well, we shan’t have long to find out, at any rate.  About eight hours, in fact.

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