Hi Scott, Sorry to hear about your loss. :( As for England I also will raise a frosty mug of Sam adams and celebrate and wait till "november" here in the USA for the same! GOD Bless America! Home of Apple! :) Talk soon Chuck
On Jun 23, 2016, at 11:58 PM, Scott Granados wrote: > Well I’ve been riveted watching this all day, I’m going on 24 hours here, > it’s also a welcome distraction to some really really bad stuff happening on > my family level right now so forgive me if I use your country’s politics as a > distraction.:) My grandmother oddly enough who is the connection to Britain > for me passed after 96 years on this rock and it’s all closing in on me now > that I am only one of 3 left in our family and the other 2 are on the shorter > end of their lives than longer so I’m feeling a bit freaked out and my > numbers are dwindling down to 0 so if I get in the weeds you get it. > To give you an idea why I feel such a connection with your country my > family on my mother’s side came to this country fairly recently. My grand > mother and grand father came over to this country on boats I believe before > world war 2 and settled on the east coast as well as Detroit. My great Grand > father, mother’s grand father actually worked on your crown jewels. I have > jewelers drawings hand made by him used to create some of the items in your > tower of London today. I’ve frequently thought about giving them to one of > your museums if you’d have them but I have no idea their value or if they > represent any thing special to the British people or even what or who should > have them. It’s this man’s daughter, my grand mother who passed this > morning. She taught me so much about your part of the world from your money > to telling me stories about my cousins who I don’t know but sell fruit in > fruit stands somewhere in London or another husband and wife relation of ours > who I met once years ago and don’t know exactly how they fit but they own a > sweater company in Scotland. I remember these people coming to visit us and > my Grand Father who is from Whales loved taking them to sites around the > north east US where we americans beat back the British during the > Revolution.:) He loved giving the English side of our family a real ribbing > about the revolution when they would come to visit. In the same breath > though, my grandfather served during World War II and I know always talked > about the Brits he served proudly with. > I say all this because I’m not the only one. So many of us have such > connections to your island. So understand when you say all in together and > all that, I consider very much we folks on both sides of the pond on the same > team. > BTW, BBC and ITV just called it in favor of leaving I’m shocked but > you’ve definitely made things interesting over here. Your vaporizing my > financial holdings as I watch this, thanks guys☺, but I’m in, I wish we could > shake off our oppressive federal government like you all just did the EU. > The rebel in me feels a real connection to your side right now. Not for > racial reasons, not for fear of any group but for self determination, self > rule, beating back the huge corporate and global interests that do not have > your country’s best interest at heart. I know the economic arguments made > against you leaving and I say bunk. You’re a strong country, you do not need > the approval of brussels to get through your day. The UK alone is a massive > economy, thankfully you never wrapped your self in the Euro so your pound > will carry on. I will buy many of your pounds when they tank over the next > few days because the fears are irrational and I will do well as will you all > doubling down on yourselves. > So folks in Florida or Texas, if you wish to break away from the union > let me know, I’ll move down and join you.:) I feel like blasting dixie and > blasting a few hundred rounds in the air in celebration of someone, finally, > beating back the powers of globalization and centralization of regulation > with out representation. In stead so I don’t get labeled a racist or > arrested for making to much noise or being armed in the US I will hoist a > cold one in your country’s honor. > > > To my Grand Mother Jean and to the fine people of Britain, stay or leave, way > to go! Nicely done and all that on all counts. I drink a Sam Adams beer from > the Boston Brewing company in your honor. The irony is not lost on me nor is > it lost o nme that I’m siding with the tories.:) > > > And the associated press just called it and someone is pounding on Borris > Johnson’s door trying to wake him up. Great stuff! > > CNBC just called it in favor of leave also. > > Wow, I’m shocked! > > On 6/23/16, 6:11 PM, "Sabahattin Gucukoglu" <[email protected] > on behalf of [email protected]> wrote: > > Mmm, your president does seem to have quite a fascination with teats, doesn’t > he? :) > > Regardless, I imagine his comments did more to inflame the Brexiters than to > encourage the Bremainers. But, as it happens, I too hope to remain. The > worst part about it is that it’s based more or less purely on pragmatism > rather than principle: the far-right government now in power will only use > Brexit to lurch even further to the right, without our delightful, if > meddlesome, friends in Brussels to prevent them by (undemocratically, it’s > true) arriving at sensible and socially just policy decisions on the merits. > The hypothetical independent state of Britain, in a climate of establishment > neoliberalism and first-past-the-post voting, seems distantly unlikely. And > as a believer in more EU unification in any event (Turkish parents), I can’t > say I feel too bad about that. Better together, and all that jazz. :) > > Still, I do wonder what that hypothetical Britain, under the rule of a > democratically elected liberal government, would look like. It’d be cosy, > but would it make me happy? Initially, probably. Maybe we could make it > work at the negotiating tables where decisions are made. But I’d feel bad > for the other EU member states, and the project. We’d be turning away > everything it, and all of the men, women and children in its member states, > represent. My individualistic side says it makes no difference as long as > I’m living in the exact same country; my squidgy insides say otherwise. No, > the EU isn’t a utopia, but by remaining, at least we can fix its faults, > which is something a lot of Brexiters seem completely reluctant to take any > interest in doing. And maybe we can one day look forward to a truly united > Europe. > > So maybe it is about principle, after all. :) > > Well, we shan’t have long to find out, at any rate. 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