Actually, someone on another list made an excellent point to bring this back 
somewhat more on topic.

 

Look at what the EU was doing to Apple and Google.  Look at the goofie 
regulations that were being forced on companies and people external to the 
region.  Google was under attack in the EU.  Britain can be a place of free 
markets and less regulation where the googles and apples can flourish.  That’s 
good for us all.  The EU may have threatened innovation by some of our favorite 
companies.:)

 

I think the mods have already demonstrated a lot of tolerance here on this 
topic, as soon as they want it to stop I for one will be ok, they showed some 
good flexability here in my opinion.

 

 

From: <[email protected]> on behalf of Kawal Gucukoglu 
<[email protected]>
Reply-To: <[email protected]>
Date: Friday, June 24, 2016 at 9:49 AM
To: Macvisionaries <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Brexit, wishing our friends across the pond well

 

I just hope that the moderators of this list will let this topic be an 
exception for once as in a way people travel the world especially to 
exhibitions of access technology and for once we have had a discussion of how 
the world is.  If the moderators feel that we have done something wrong in 
discussing this matter then the spirit of this list will be diminished.  This 
was a historical decision so if the moderators wish to comment then they can do 
so and if they wish to take our rights away by putting those of us on 
notification that our membership is to be taken away then this list will be 
poorer.

 

The moderators can get in touch with me privately if they wish to do this so as 
not to have this discussion on this list as I know people won’t like it and 
they will complain.

 

Those of you who do not like what is said, then by all means press the delete 
key and move on.

 

Kawal. 

On 24 Jun 2016, at 14:35, Scott Granados <[email protected]> wrote:

 

We could learn something from your secular example!

 

 

I would also like to thank the Moderators for allowing this thread which is 
terribly off topic to continue.  We probably should wrap it up but I do thank 
Mark and Kara for allowing it go this far.  I think it was important and I also 
think it was important to say that a lot of us here didn’t agree with the 
meddling in your affairs either.

 

Thank you Moderators and thanks everyone for the spirited discussion.

 

 

From: <[email protected]> on behalf of Anne Robertson 
<[email protected]>
Reply-To: <[email protected]>
Date: Friday, June 24, 2016 at 7:41 AM
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Brexit, wishing our friends across the pond well

 

Hello Sabahattin,

 

On 24 Jun 2016, at 12:55, Sabahattin Gucukoglu <[email protected]> wrote:

 

Anne, that’s absolutely appalling.  You were refused at point of need for a 
kidney transplant by the NHS?  Damn those French, so efficient and socially 
competent—if a little too Islamaphobic for my taste.  My own experience with 
the NHS (but not for a transplant) has been truly wonderful, so your story 
makes me sad.  Now we’re out, presumably we won’t see any more of that 
wonderful efficiency from across the channel.

I was actually refused dialysis even though I was suffering horribly with so 
much fluid retention that moisture was seeping through my skin. A very 
compassionate doctor eventually got me onto a dialysis machine and saved my 
life.

 

The French are not particularly Islamaphobic, they just don’t like visible 
signs of belonging to a particular religion since the state is officially 
secular. There are, however, around six million Muslims in France which is 
almost a tenth of the population. Of course, France has its share of bigots of 
all kinds, just like everywhere else.

 

Cheers,

 

Anne

 

 

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