Well, instead of interaction, try just moving around with tab, shift-tab, and arrow keys first. It works better than you might think. Second, I love the accessibility, and the system-wide spell checking and dictionary functions. Sent from my Mac.
Devin Prater [email protected] > On Jun 26, 2016, at 9:07 PM, Arnold Schmidt <[email protected]> wrote: > > I have been curious about the Mac for quite a while. About a month after > buying this Vista computer in 2008, I listened to Mike Are ego's excellent > series of podcasts on BlindCoolTech about the Mac. If I had listened to them > before buying this computer, I would have bought a Mac then. Microsoft will > stop supporting vista next spring, so I thought it would be a good time to > investigate the Mac. Also, iTunes allegedly is easier to use on the Mac. > Being that I can not run any version of it since 12.1.3 on this computer, I > can not speak for the very latest versions of iTunes for Windows, which seem > to have some problems. Through 12.1.3, I have never had the problems some > have had using iTunes for Windows. I have been with Windows since Windows 98, > and am not dissatisfied with it. I am more just curious about the Mac > environment, being it seems to have such devoted followers. I love my > iPhone, considering it to be, THE most life changing piece of electronics I > have ever bought, and some tell me that the iPhone and Mac work better > together than with Windows. I am just curious about it all. > > Arnold Schmidt >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Mary Otten <mailto:[email protected]> >> To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2016 9:28 PM >> Subject: Re: Why Is The Mac Better Than Windows? >> >> Hi Hank, >> What are the things that you want to do with your mat? What prompted you to >> purchase the Mac in the first place? What are you dissatisfied with >> regarding windows? I think all of those things which depend on you are the >> real questions that need answering regarding whether a Mac is a better >> choice for you than windows. Regarding iTunes, I have not used it with >> windows ever. I know there are folks who do use it with windows. I have a >> friend who has windows and never used a Mac, and he hates iTunes with a >> passion. I have used iTunes on the Mac. It seems usable, but iTunes is >> certainly not my favorite program either. I think, depending on your answers >> to the questions at the start of this message, it may well be a good thing >> for you to turn your Mac back in and just keep on using windows. You could >> of course run Windows on your Mac. But why? I bought a Mac many years ago >> when snow leopard was the current version of OS X. I now have a different >> Mac mini. Honestly, if I had it to do again, I am not sure that I would buy >> a Mac. Progress has not been what I had hoped it would be on the Mac with >> respect to things like reading PDF files and scanning large volumes of >> material and embossing braille, all of which I still do on windows. On the >> other hand, I have a very large library in iTunes on my Mac that I ripped >> from CDs, most of which are now gone. I have stereos with airport expresses >> and an Apple TV and airplay. So in that regard, I guess I'm stuck in the Mac >> ecosystem. But if I had it to do again, I'm not sure I would have gone that >> route. So, again, why did you buy a Mac? What do you want to get out of the >> Mac? And what don't you like about windows? >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Jun 26, 2016, at 6:17 PM, Arnold Schmidt <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> >>> Please forgive the long message to follow. Just delete it if you don't >>> want to read it. >>> >>> I have been messing around with my new Mac Mini over the weekend. I have >>> the two books, Everything You Need To Know To Use The Mac With El Capitan >>> And Voice Over, by Janet Ingber, and Mastering The Macintosh With Voice >>> Over, by Tim Sniffen.I thoroughly expected not to know what I am doing for >>> a while, at the moment, that is an understatement. I have it set up, >>> thanks to Mr. Sniffen's book, Ms. Ingber seems to assume one will have >>> sighted help to do that. I have been with windows since 2000, and Jaws >>> 3.5. I still have Jaws, having bought, last December, the SMA through >>> version 19. I have to figure out, by July 5, whether I want to take the >>> Mac back to the Apple store to get my money back. So far, it seems like a >>> bunch of incredible tedium to get things done, as compared to Windows. The >>> track pad helps, it makes it a little more like my iPhone 6, that I love. >>> Getting things done on the iPhone never seemed to have nearly the tedium as >>> does the Mac,even when my iPhone 5 was new to me. For example, having to >>> interact with things, rather than just hitting enter when I want to do >>> something, or press two or three keys at the same time to get VoiceOver to >>> do something, I have no doubt that I can learn it, but My nagging >>> question during my 14 days is going to be: why? What is so much better >>> about this than Windows? Is the Mac really better, or just different? Is, >>> for example, iTunes really easier to use? What little I have investigated, >>> I am not yet convinced that it is. Already having Jaws, I don't have the >>> issue of having to buy a windows screen reader, and NVDA is making it >>> unnecessary even for a new Windows user to do so. I paid over 50 percent >>> more for this Mac Mini than I could have bought a Windows 10 computer. I >>> wish I had 30 days, rather than 14, to figure this out. The time is >>> ticking. 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