I completely agree with these assessments 100%. let me start by saying this: the Mac is not for everyone. oh boy do I hear people on this list complaining to me now! as an assistant technology instructor, I have to say the honest truth however. And the honest truth is, some people may do better with windows then with a Macintosh computer. this said, I strongly encourage you not to give up just quite yet. There are tons of us on this list who would be more than happy to bend our backs over to help you. Me being one of them. I know that it may seem frustrating, really I do! I have been in your shoes.
further, I do understand that you are not saying that the Mac is a bad system. You were simply wondering it's benefits over windows. forgive me if I miss read your email, but if I understood correctly, you've only had the system for all of the matter of maybe a week. it midweek, the mat does not behave like windows, and same vice a versa. my point being, it's not going to come over night. I'm sorry to say, but if you think it will, then you were sitting way too high of expectations for yourself. it took me about 2 1/2 weeks before I even started, keyword, started, to feel comfortable with what I was doing. and honestly, it wasn't for about another half a year before I got where I was willing to literally get rid of my Windows computer and replace it with the Macintosh system. let me be very clear, due to certain programs which I must run with my job, I am unable to completely ditch windows altogether. this said, if it was not for those couple of programs, I would feel completely comfortable making the switch 100%. Now that is just me however. I would not expect someone like you to do that until you got more comfortable with what you were doing. I definitely think that your concerns, as well as your questions are incredibly valid. I strongly encourage you to be patient. I know that you only have until July 5 to return the system, but if you are really serious about going to learn this, then let me be very straight up with you. I cannot promise you, nor can anyone else on this list, that you will be able to learn the system in that amount of time, however, we will do our utmost to help you as much as we can. if you are willing to work with us, most likely, we can probably get you through this to where you will be feeling more comfortable with what you were doing. Here's another suggestion. Have you looked at http://www.applevis.com if not, I would strongly suggest you doing so! You would not believe how valuable of a resource this is! if we can help you further in anyway, please, please, don't hesitate to write the list and let us know. We are definitely here to help, please do not give up yet. I really really think that once you get the hang of things, you will grow to love it. Again, that is my opinion. I do not know your level of skill. You may wind up not loving, and if you don't, then you know what? That's OK. all that I would ask, is that you give it just a day or two longer. Really truly let us try to help you. if after that it doesn't work, then, it doesn't work. I at least for one will be incredibly proud of you for at least trying. thanks for reading, and for allowing me to contribute to this thread. Chris. sent from my iPad > On Jun 26, 2016, at 21:30, Brandon A. Olivares <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Honestly, I think the Mac is far better than Windows. > > First, it’s really not that complicated once you get used to it. Have you > tried the item chooser? That might help you navigate more easily. Just press > control-option-I. Navigate to the item you want, or type in the first few > letters of the name of that item, and press enter on it, and you’ll be > directed there. > > I taught my wife how to use the Mac from day 1, and she likes it a lot better > than Windows. She refuses to ever use Windows again at this point, because > the Mac has been so much easier. > > So here are the ways I think it’s better: > > 1. It’s more stable. I don’t know how JAWS is now, but I remember the days of > just about anything making it crash. With the Mac, I know I’ll always have > accessibility. I never had to get sighted assistance because the screen > reader crashes and I can’t get it to come back on. > > 2. Apple cares about accessibility. I think it’s notable that JAWS, or any > other major screen reader, doesn’t come from Microsoft itself. Microsoft is > not beholden whatsoever to make Windows accessible. The screen reader > developers have to keep up with Windows development, and it’s not guaranteed > that everything will be accessible. > > Every native application on the Mac is accessible out of the box, and most > 3rd party applications are accessible as well, if they follow the guidelines > Apple has in place. > > 3. It’s more durable. I use my computer pretty much every waking moment, and > it has lasted a lot longer than any Windows computer I have had, including > the so-called top of the line brands. > > 4. It’s easy. I know it might seem complicated at first, but it’s really not, > as I said. I can do just about anything on my MacBook Air. > > 5. Works with iPhone natively. I love the hand-off feature that Mac/iPhone > has now. You have no idea how often I use this feature. Have an app open on > the Mac, and open that same app on the iPhone. > > Anyway, those are just a few of the reasons. I hope it helps, though. Let me > know if you have questions. > > Brandon >> On Jun 26, 2016, at 9:17 PM, Arnold Schmidt <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Please forgive the long message to follow. Just delete it if you don't want >> to read it. >> >> I have been messing around with my new Mac Mini over the weekend. I have >> the two books, Everything You Need To Know To Use The Mac With El Capitan >> And Voice Over, by Janet Ingber, and Mastering The Macintosh With Voice >> Over, by Tim Sniffen.I thoroughly expected not to know what I am doing for a >> while, at the moment, that is an understatement. I have it set up, thanks >> to Mr. Sniffen's book, Ms. Ingber seems to assume one will have sighted help >> to do that. I have been with windows since 2000, and Jaws 3.5. I still >> have Jaws, having bought, last December, the SMA through version 19. I >> have to figure out, by July 5, whether I want to take the Mac back to the >> Apple store to get my money back. So far, it seems like a bunch of >> incredible tedium to get things done, as compared to Windows. The track pad >> helps, it makes it a little more like my iPhone 6, that I love. Getting >> things done on the iPhone never seemed to have nearly the tedium as does the >> Mac,even when my iPhone 5 was new to me. For example, having to interact >> with things, rather than just hitting enter when I want to do something, or >> press two or three keys at the same time to get VoiceOver to do something, I >> have no doubt that I can learn it, but My nagging question during my 14 >> days is going to be: why? What is so much better about this than Windows? >> Is the Mac really better, or just different? Is, for example, iTunes really >> easier to use? What little I have investigated, I am not yet convinced that >> it is. Already having Jaws, I don't have the issue of having to buy a >> windows screen reader, and NVDA is making it unnecessary even for a new >> Windows user to do so. I paid over 50 percent more for this Mac Mini than >> I could have bought a Windows 10 computer. I wish I had 30 days, rather >> than 14, to figure this out. The time is ticking. What is so much better >> about this than Windows, which I already know how to use? >> >> Arnold Schmidt >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >> Visionaries list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara >> Quinn - you can reach Cara at [email protected] >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara > Quinn - you can reach Cara at [email protected] > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. 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