Scott,
A cool design that was hundreds of thousands of years in the making. Evolution at work. Same principle that we see with the iPhone.

Yes its possible the human race was seeded. After all our solar system is quite young compared to the galaxy we fondly know as the Milky Way.

We are not a creation of randomness nor is the creation theory scientifically valid.

From E.T.'s Keyboard...
  Are We Alone in the Universe?
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On 7/1/2016 5:15 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
Nah, no design, none needed.  Enough variations yield the same results.  
Evolution is also not a brute force process like the unintelligent design folks 
would like to have us believe.  It is totally iterative and builds on previous 
successes so just like you don’t brute force ciphers to crack them any more you 
don’t brute force evolution either.
Enough super membranes bump together in 11 dimensional space eventually one of 
them resonates in to a universe like ours with life and inflation.  Most 
probably pop or collapse but just like coal every once in a while conditions 
are right and you get a diamond. No invisible men sitting on clouds required.
        It is possible we were seeded but I’ll let E.T. speak to that topic.  
Pan spermia might also account for the population but that’s just the result of 
organic molecules forming in the centers of dying stars.  No magic and nobody 
behind the curtain pulling strings, just good ol law of large numbers.

As the old raiser statement goes, the simplest solution is usually the right 
one.




On Jul 1, 2016, at 3:49 PM, CHUCK REICHEL <[email protected]> 
wrote:

Hi Scott,
Very nice! :)
What a cool design we are! :)
Talk soon
Chuck


On Jul 1, 2016, at 3:38 PM, Scott Granados wrote:

Vaughn, I know native bluetooth support exists.  I’ll dig around through some 
articles for you.  Glad to help you out.  It sounds like you and some others 
who use hearing devices could benefit from this.

I’m very very interested in human / machine interfaces.  And yes, total tech 
nerd and proud of it.:)
        I have a good friend who is a perceptual psychologist and studies non 
visual way finding and human machine interfaces.  I’m trying to get ahold of 
him because I think he could shed some light on this subject. The idea of 
connecting directly to the brain for the ear or obviously for vision interests 
me. The idea of circumventing the cochlear altogether and connecting to the 
brain is a tricky one though.  That cochlear does a lot of preprocessing.  
That’s the thing that learns how to hear music or language. Cochlear of Chinese 
people for example have different tonal assignments to the individual nerve 
ends than say someone who grew up in the West using our 12 tone scale.  Nerves 
that get tickled by English words react differently when programmed to hear 
Middle Eastern languages and so forth.  When babies are born this nerve mass is 
undefined and programmable.  Like the brain as you get older these values are 
assigned based on many factors including culture, location, up bringing and 
many other factors. As we get older these become fixed.  Just like we old 
timers get set in our ways so do our neurons.  Once it gets passed the ear 
things get really dicy really quick.  Same with vision.  Theres real 
rudimentary ability to basically lightly shock parts of the visual center and 
with a developed cortex have the person perceive a flash.  The flashes can be 
theoretically grouped together in a matrix of electrodes to say build a score 
board effect where the user perceives say a basic shape of an uppercase E by 
stimulating the right electrodes in order There is an interesting picture on 
the net of the first attempts of this taking up 2 racks of computer equipment.  
I’m absolutely certain you could do the calculations now in an iPhone.  The 
fact is though, once we get to the brain we don’t know much.  THere’s over 4 
quadrillion discrete chemicals at play not to mention trillions of 
interconnections.  When imaged behavior is also odd.  Hearing and site for 
example trip all sorts of areas all around the brain and in many cases it’s 
hard to tell the difference of that to someone imagining they are hearing the 
same thing but sitting quietly.  There’s a lot more paralyzation and 
distributed processing going on there than you’d think and we really have no 
idea. We’re getting there though, you folks with the artificial hearing blazed 
a lot of trails, the military is spending huge dollars on this right now to 
help restore censes lost in returning Vets.  I believe they have a system now 
for artificial arms that will transmit basic touch and there are some hands 
that can respond to nerve pulses.  This is why I always say the real solution 
to accessibility issues is solving the medical side of the problem and not 
really adapting the machines although adapting the machines is our best 
solution today.

Great time to be alive!



On Jul 1, 2016, at 2:21 PM, Vaughn Brown <[email protected]> wrote:

Scott, I be interested in what you find on Bluetooth. As far as I
know, and did some reading on the Cochlear's site, a clip is required.
I would not mind using a Bluetooth adapter -- especially when wanting
to connect to a Bluetooth speaker for performances situations to block
out the obnoxious bar folks... LOL
You sound like a technology geek. smiles. I'm still split between old
and the new...
Vaughn

On 7/1/16, Devin Prater <[email protected]> wrote:
Well, there is VoiceVision, which is dead, no longer updated at all, but
nope, not the vOICe. I’ve brought it up several times, but Peter either
isn’t receptive to iOS and all, or doesn’t have the money, resources, or
doesn’t see the need to develop for iOS and macOS.
Sent from my Mac.

Devin Prater
[email protected]



On Jul 1, 2016, at 6:41 AM, Scott Granados <[email protected]> wrote:

I thought the VOIC was available on IOS, it’s not?  I know Android
obviously.  Peter is on the eyes free list you aught to bring it up, but
off list so you don’t get flamed.:)

Once it’s digital and all data the options are far greater.  As Sabahattin
rightly points out they could have a bad implementation with to many
restrictions but the general idea is a good one and we’ll have to see how
it appears in it’s final form.  You get it though, having a data stream
instead of analog signaling would be very advantageous.  Just like the
switch to digital for broadcasting was beneficial.

On Jul 1, 2016, at 7:20 AM, Devin Prater <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

Oh man, video too? I didn’t think of that. Now if only some one would
port the vOICe: seeingwithsound.com <http://seeingwithsound.com/>, to
iOS, then … Then the wheel of fate would really be turning!
Sent from my Mac.

Devin Prater
[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>



On Jul 1, 2016, at 6:17 AM, Scott Granados <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

Devin, that’s the spirit!

That’s what I’m saying, some are poopooing the whole idea with out even
seeing it.

I think it was Ricardo that was mentioning the inclusion of health
censors which could track your health stats while wearing the
headphones.  Your ideas with VR are also good. I had mentioned how much
better noise cancelation would be possible with a digital input.  What
about a headset that has both audio and video so think something like a
google glasses plug in.  I’ve been thinking about getting an Oculist
Rift and using that to fly a drone.  I finally have time again to work
on that project and I’d like to take stereo audio signals as well as
head movements to steer the drone and have audible feedback.  Lightning
would make that link possible to a phone instead of a laptop or
desktop.

I like your style.:)


On Jul 1, 2016, at 6:45 AM, Devin Prater <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

One thing that interests me is the digital part of Lightning adaptors.
Imagine EarPods that can detect what you can and can’t hear as an
individual, kind of like MyNoise’s calibration stuff, but through
hardware and automatic. Or, it could do noise blocking, or turn down
volume when someone talks, or, with Siri maybe, if some one says your
name. Then, we get into virtual reality stuff, with games possibly
knowing how your head is pointed, if you nod or shake your head, stuff
like that. We don’t even know what Apple has dreamed up yet for
Lightning headphones. Perhaps, after using them, we’ll feel like
regular old headphones are dead and boring, because they can only deal
with sound or other analog data.
Sent from my Mac.

Devin Prater
[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>



On Jul 1, 2016, at 5:21 AM, Scott Granados <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

See adapters don’t scare me, like you I have piles of them in the work
bag so I’m ready for what ever situation.  Lots of fiber pigtails, ST
connectors, SC connectors, single and multi mode, ethernet cables,
thunderbolt to ethernet and thunderbolt to VGA, 8th inch to quarter
inch headphone adapters, and so forth.  Even USB to 9 pin serial for
the console ports on various devices.  The Mac needs a good serial
terminal program for that matter.  I use putty or the terminal
software under windows but didn’t find Zterm on the Mac accessible.
One more adapter won’t break me but it might give me cool connection
options.


On Jul 1, 2016, at 6:13 AM, Simon Fogarty <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

And that's agood point,

I've got so many adaptors now that I wish there was a standard for
all devices.

Lightening or USB C for notebooks and tablets / phones,

I've got lightening adaptors for my iPad and iPhone that do
hdmi,vga,dvi, sd cards, USB and other things,
If Only they worked in my mac book air!

Now I also would want to see more than one port on the notebooks,
like the new mac book 12 inch, a couple more USB C ports would make
more sence.

Not just the one they have.

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>
[mailto:[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>] On Behalf Of Terje
Strømberg
Sent: Thursday, 30 June 2016 8:13 PM
To: Mac Group <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>>
Cc: Terje Strømberg <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>>
Subject: Re: Taking The Headphone Jack Off Phones Is User-Hostile and
Stupid, Have Some Dignity

Actually, there will be adapters that have both lightning  and 3.5mm
headphone connector on the same unit. Its a strange world. Need to
adapt.

Take care

30. jun. 2016 kl. 09.44 skrev Sabahattin Gucukoglu <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>>:

More confirmation here:
http://www.macrumors.com/2016/06/29/cirrus-logic-mfi-lightning-headphone-dev-kit/
<http://www.macrumors.com/2016/06/29/cirrus-logic-mfi-lightning-headphone-dev-kit/>

Lightning.  Still not happy about it, but then I’m not buying an
iPhone 7, so it’s OK, for now.  Gotta love the Apple pundits
continuing to be completely, ahem, tone deaf on the issue.

Scott, I was talking more in the way of degradation to today’s
computer speakers over the use of complex physical changers.  Yep,
there are crazy workarounds, but there’s still no direct path from
digital to your speaker system or even boombox; either you’ve got
proprietary interfaces to the network or sky-rise vertically
integrated systems that know about very specific services, but no
general-purpose network interconnect that’ll work no matter the
digital input source.  What we want is for today’s computers and
smartphones to be able, either wirelessly or with digital AV
interfaces, to benefit from the big speakers.  That can’t be too
much to ask, can it?  I’ve been looking into all the various
solutions, especially Sonos, but I’m still feeling pretty meh about
it, really.  Sure I can build a component system and cable it all
together and use a remote to switch components, but why bother when
I have a working wired and wireless network and all my
stuff—everything I care about—is all digital now and will become
increasingly so as I rip it from analog?  I just despair that at
this golden time of opportunity, all the vendors are going their own
separate ways to screw the consumer with closed protocols and meshes
and cordless standards.

As for SD card storage, the only thing I’ll say is that Apple would
rather you pay their prices than wipe your bottom with money, so
they don’t offer you the choice.  But realistically, the SD
interface is slow, and if it existed at all it would only be in an
adaptor form factor anyway; there is simply no use case for
permanently accessible storage that’s external.  Sure I’d love it,
but I think Apple are probably right here not to include the slot,
all the same.  Even on Android a lot of people use SD cards purely
for data, and not for apps, because the speed difference is
noticeable.  What Apple needs to do is expose SD cards using
document providers, and make the file system more useful by making
it accessible through iOS and from outside from a trusted computer
or over the network.  That, I think, is far more practical and
useful, IMO, and would make the grudges about storage far less
legitimate.

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