Well, if you look at what they have done with their Kindle devices in the last year or year and a half, plus how they have made the Alexa Apple whole lot more usable, I would say they're moving in the right direction. They are also moving in the right direction with their screen reader on the Kindle fire, which is also preliminarily available on the fire TV. Given where Amazon was just a couple or three years ago, I think they're making good strides. I do certainly hope that the website sees some serious excess ability improvement. But I don't think it is fair to call into question Peter's commitment to excess ability. He has decades in the field and is clearly committed. Mary
Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 17, 2016, at 12:03 PM, Karen Lewellen <klewel...@shellworld.net> wrote: > > Hi Mary, > Peter Korn's official title is archetype. In a way that at least suggests > that he deals directly with the development and implementation of access > standards in Amazon products. Far more so than say if he was a VP of > management. > It is not a question of his focus upon what looks good. It is a question of > what insures access for individuals with various disability experiences. > I know he is talented, i still use outspoken for my pro tools machine. But > how his desires translate into functionality for Amazon remains a mystery > given what I found last night. > Karen > > >> On Tue, 16 Aug 2016, Mary Otten wrote: >> >> Peter corn is a guy with decades of experience in the excess ability field. >> He is not some guy with a disability that some company put front and center >> just to make something look good. >> Mary >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Aug 16, 2016, at 9:40 PM, Karen Lewellen <klewel...@shellworld.net> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Honestly that depends on Mr. Korn's personal background. >>> Sometimes management leads with their own experience of a disability, >>> instead of recognizing that inclusion refers to the floor not the person >>> using the floor. >>> One does not find a different Walmart for those arriving in a van then >>> say those on a skateboard, so one should not have a different amazon for >>> those who prefer less clutter when they shop. >>> Sometimes, as with say paypal, the person listed as being in charge of >>> accessibility seemingly gets paid to pretend a disability with a demo. >>> I have an email from an amazon supervisor stating that the company takes >>> inclusion seriously. given it is far easier for them to be sued in some >>> countries where they do business over access than stateside, I intend >>> believing they sincere until I learn otherwise. >>> applying a generalized expectation sometimes leads to poor results or so I >>> personally feel. >>> Kare >>> >>> >>>> On Tue, 16 Aug 2016, E.T. wrote: >>>> >>>> No offense on the "excess ability wording so to play on it a bit... If >>>> this upper management is supposed to deal with accessibility, then is it >>>> not obvious they do not know the nuts and bolts thus they need to hear >>>> from those these efforts is supposedly aimed at? >>>> >>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard... >>>> Are We Alone in the Universe? >>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com >>>> >>>>> On 8/16/2016 9:13 PM, Mary Otten wrote: >>>>> I know for a fact that Peter corn is the head of the excess ability >>>>> initiative and Amazon. I don't know who to take it too. I do know just as >>>>> a general rule the people who are in charge of large efforts are not in >>>>> the habit of answering nuts and bolts? This on an individual basis, just >>>>> based on the fact that they are upper management. So, sure. Right to Peter >>>>> corn at that address, assuming it is correct. But if you don't get an >>>>> answer, don't be surprised. >>>>> Mary >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>> On Aug 16, 2016, at 9:02 PM, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote: >>>>>>> Mary, >>>>>> Do you know this for a fact or are you speculating? If Peter Korn is > >>>>>> not the one to take it to, then who or what or where? >>>>>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard... >>>>>> Are We Alone in the Universe? >>>>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com >>>>>>>> On 8/16/2016 8:45 PM, Mary Otten wrote: >>>>>>> Given the fact that the email address you have is for Peter corn, the > >>>>>>> > excess ability head guy at Amazon, I wouldn't expect a reply from >>>>>>> that > > address from him personally. That sounds like something that >>>>>>> would not > > be something he would directly deal with as head of the >>>>>>> whole > > department. >>>>>>> Mary >>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 16, 2016, at 7:01 PM, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> Well. This was shared some time ago so may be out of service now, >>>>>>>>>>> > > > who knows. >>>>>>>>>>> pk...@amazon.com >>>>>>>>>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard... >>>>>>>> Are We Alone in the Universe? >>>>>>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com >>>>>>>>>>>> On 8/16/2016 6:51 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote: >>>>>>>>> ...and when I go to the your orders page and choose digital > > > > >>>>>>>>> orders, and >>>>>>>>> locate my items, and choose download your music...I reach an error > >>>>>>>>> > > > that >>>>>>>>> says >>>>>>>>> "we are having a problem with your music orders. >>>>>>>>> I spent 2.5 hours with Amazon on the issue...which is why my > > > > >>>>>>>>> question is >>>>>>>>> for a direct accessibility contact, not instructions. >>>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>>> Kare >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 16 Aug 2016, E.T. wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mark Taylor posted some information probably last year about >>>>>>>>>> downloading music via web interface. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have not done this as I have not bought music in a while. I am >>>>>>>>>> pasting below the information Amazon sent to Mark. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As an alternative, you can download your music directly through >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > your >>>>>>>>>> web browser. To help make this easier, we've completely > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> redesigned web >>>>>>>>>> browser downloading. It now gives you the option to download > > > > >>>>>>>>>> > albums >>>>>>>>>> and multiple tracks at the same time using .ZIP files. ZIP is a > > >>>>>>>>>> > > > file >>>>>>>>>> format that compresses content for quicker transfer. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You can download music through your browser after completing a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > Digital >>>>>>>>>> Music Store purchase, from Your Orders >>>>>>>>>> (https://www.amazon.com/yourorders), and from your music library >>>>>>>>>> https://www.amazon.com/musiclibrary >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just select the albums or songs you want to download and click >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > the >>>>>>>>>> "Download" option onscreen. If prompted to install the Amazon > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > Music >>>>>>>>>> app for PC and Mac, you can click "No thanks, just download > > > > >>>>>>>>>> > music >>>>>>>>>> files directly." >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For multiple songs and albums, your download starts > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> automatically in a >>>>>>>>>> pop-up window, and is split into one or more .ZIP files. You can > > >>>>>>>>>> > > > click >>>>>>>>>> the files in the download window once they're ready to save to > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > your >>>>>>>>>> computer. If you've only selected one song, it downloads as an >>>>>>>>>> individual .MP3 file. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To complete your download: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. Choose "Save" if your browser asks whether you want to open >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > or save >>>>>>>>>> the file(s). >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. Open the file(s) once the download is complete. Most browsers >>>>>>>>>> display the status of your download onscreen, and then give you > > >>>>>>>>>> > > > an >>>>>>>>>> option to open it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3. Files typically save to your browser's default "Downloads" > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > folder. >>>>>>>>>> You can then move each of the music tracks you've downloaded to > > >>>>>>>>>> > > > the >>>>>>>>>> preferred location on your computer (e.g. "Your Music" or > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> "Music"). >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tip: To add your downloaded music to iTunes, launch the iTunes >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > app and >>>>>>>>>> select "Add File to Library" from the menu. Browse to the file > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > or >>>>>>>>>> location where you saved your download, then select each track > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > you >>>>>>>>>> want to add and confirm. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To learn more about downloading music through your browser, go >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > to: >>>>>>>>>> https://www.amazon.com/help/music/zipdownloads >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You can also use the Amazon Music app for PC and Mac to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> download > > > > > music >>>>>>>>>> to your computer. With the Amazon Music app, you can play and > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > download >>>>>>>>>> your music library, automatically export your downloaded music > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > to >>>>>>>>>> iTunes or Windows Media Player, and more. 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