Yes, I’m a huge gun collector and fire arms enthusiast. Hazards of being raised by a Marine. I like blowing things up and shooting inanimate objects. Phones that don’t behave are fun, so are propane tanks. Lol but off topic so I’ll stop here.
> On Sep 15, 2016, at 9:51 PM, Cheree Heppe <che...@dogsc4me.com> wrote: > > Firing range?? > LOL > > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Sep 15, 2016, at 18:44, Scott Granados <sc...@qualityip.net > <mailto:sc...@qualityip.net>> wrote: > >> Cheree, you’re not going anywhere. Even if you don’t like the change in >> mail. If you think that’s tricky try using Android. Android is a joke of >> an operating system in comparison. If for example you want to use the web >> or expect stability, expect to get your security patched and updates and >> even expect consistent experience then you’ll just hate android. >> >> Here’s a practical example. T-Mobile had a problem in IOS 10, it took them >> about 48 hours to push an update to all the phones and correct their >> problem. If this was the google world the update would be pushed to phones >> based on each individual vendor’s timeline, which in the case of Samsung for >> example may have taken months. Samsung has been as much as a year out of >> date in releasing updates of the OS. >> >> Don’t even get me started on windows and that after thought of an screen >> reader situation. >> >> I had such a bad experience with a Galaxy phone i actually took it to the >> firing range and put a 308 round through the phone. It rebooted one to many >> times during a phone interview to live.;) >> >>> On Sep 15, 2016, at 9:03 PM, Cheree Heppe <che...@dogsc4me.com >>> <mailto:che...@dogsc4me.com>> wrote: >>> >>> It seems counterproductive to force an up-to-date, streamlined >>> functionality, such as iOS to emulate an older, difficult, clumsy system, >>> namely OS. >>> If I'm not mistaken, there are more users of the iOS than the OS. The iOS >>> represents a gateway experience that the public has readily adopted. Among >>> the public are large numbers of blind and disabled users. >>> If this new mail modality represents Apple's future for iOS, I am going to >>> be forced into seeking another phone and notebook alternative. This mail >>> issue mushroomed, full-blown, from an update promised to improve, to make >>> simpler, to add features. >>> My experience has unfortunately invited an opposite opinion. No release >>> notes guided usage; it was just changed, just done and just not helpful or >>> easily usable. >>> It feels as though there is a tug-of-war between some who learned on that >>> clumsy, multi-step, multi-keyboard usage system and those using the iOs. >>> It is my opinion that the older, less easy OS needs to give place to the >>> more modern, more intuitive, more usable iOs and not the other way round. >>> Each update adds extra complications to iOS in the name of improvements. >>> There are a cadre of blind and sighted who, like the old friends at rehab, >>> insist on speaking for us, the user/consumer blind, for our own good. >>> I recommend that all of us speak up in our own best interest or risk losing >>> something that could and did change the world for us. >>> >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On Sep 15, 2016, at 15:27, David Chittenden <dchitten...@gmail.com >>> <mailto:dchitten...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>> >>>> Correct, the way messages are handled has changed. Visually, it now looks >>>> much more like mail on the mac. It also works more like macmail. >>>> >>>> When in the main message list, individual messages are still handled the >>>> same as in iOS 9. Threads are different. If one double-taps on a thread to >>>> activate it, one goes into a browse thread view. In this view, >>>> single-finger vertical flick moves up and down through the messages. >>>> Single-finger horrizontal flicks read through the specific message. >>>> Double-tap on the delete button at the bottom of the screen deletes all >>>> messages in the thread. Three-finger horrizontal flick moves between >>>> threads, threads and individual messages which do not belong to threads, >>>> and individual messages. In other words, the same as single-finger >>>> horrizontal flick in the message list screen. >>>> >>>> If one wishes to delete only some messages from a thread, the thread must >>>> be expanded. Whilst in the main message screen, single-finger vertical >>>> flick to expand thread and double-tap. Now, the thread is unpacked and all >>>> the messages in the thread are treated like non-thread messages. Now that >>>> I have become used to this new system, I really like it. It took me a few >>>> hours of frustration to become used to this new system. >>>> >>>> I am hoping that, as Apple continues merging the behaviours of apps for >>>> iOS and Mac, that we will see a full Mac-based iPad. I love touch-screen >>>> and want my touch-screen Mac, or the equivalent. >>>> >>>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA >>>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com <mailto:dchitten...@gmail.com> >>>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>> On 16/09/2016, at 10:09, Phil Halton <philh...@gmail.com >>>> <mailto:philh...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> message threading seems to have changed substantially in IOS10. I can no >>>>> longer 3 finger flick from message to message in a thread, instead I have >>>>> to use the “pre and next” message buttons. Also, the list of messages in >>>>> a thread no longer appears, but instead I am thrown into the first >>>>> message in the thread and then have to navigate between messages using >>>>> the next and pre message buttons. 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