aa, so that! is what may be going on with why I can't type as once I hear 
that, if I then touch an icon, it'll select it.  o, k, so I just need then 
to remeber after double tapping, I need to move? that? finger, ee? 
meediately!

Chris.


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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dónal Fitzpatrick" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 12:43 PM
Subject: RE: Is the navigation of items on the IPhone as efficient and 
speedy as everyone says?


Hi Mark,

You need to do a double-tap, but on the second tap keep your finger on the
screen until you hear an audio tone.  The next gesture is, for want of a
better phrase, a "non-VO" gesture.

Dónal

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mark Gilland
Sent: 08 December 2009 17:28
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Is the navigation of items on the IPhone as efficient and
speedy as everyone says?

Someone tell me this:

I hear there is a jesture to pass the next jesture through without it being
a voice over jesture.

like a passthrough thing

I red about this on josh delion cort's website.

Does anyone know what the jesture for pass through is?

Chris.


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----- Original Message -----
From: "william lomas" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 11:56 AM
Subject: Re: Is the navigation of items on the IPhone as efficient and
speedy as everyone says?


> no if you have spacial awareness you be fine
>
> On 8 Dec 2009, at 16:44, Jess wrote:
>
>> Hi all.
>>
>> I don't mean to be negative. Maybe I'm missing something, but having
>> played with the IPhone for a while at the store last Saturday, I have
>> to wonder if the voice over navigation methods for navigating the
>> touch screen are as speedy and efficient as typing on the qwerty? For
>> example, the sighted guy who was watching me navigate using voice
>> over observed that I had to cursor all over the screen to find
>> something, when he could just tap on it with the finger. For example,
>> even if I knew the notes application, or Safari was down at the
>> bottom of the screen, I'd have to flick all the way around the screen
>> to find it. Or, let's say I was writing an email. If I knew that I
>> wanted to type in an H, or a U, would I have to cursor all over the
>> screen to find it? To me, this just would be slow and tedious. A, S,
>> D, F, G, H, double tap. Q, W, E, double tap. j, k, l, double tap. l,
>> double tap. t, y, u, i, o, double tap.
>> All that just to write the word  hello? Please tell me I'm missing
>> something!
>>
>> Jess
>>
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