So, Scott, inquiring minds want to know what kind of speakers they were 
driving. I have always been partial to B and W high-end speakers. I do not own 
any I hasten to add. I just like them a lot.
Mary


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> On Dec 1, 2016, at 4:24 PM, Scott Granados <scott.grana...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> For a goof today I went and looked at a ultra high end receiver.  I mention 
> it here on the Mac list because it was very configurable via safari which I 
> actually tried and loved.  You can set up all sorts of 32 bit audio 
> processing, automatic room equalization, but the kicker, Dolby Atmos and it’s 
> own proprietary 3d emersion algorithm along with DTS Neo and several other 
> objected oriented DTS formats.  Whoa!  I listened to an 11 channel setup, 
> believe it or not, 11.2 where you had 11 channels and 2 subwoofers.  Again, 
> whoa!  Several sets of speakers were set in the front for an expanded sound 
> stage in front of you, sides, back, and yes over head with 2 subwoofers that 
> automatically adjust so the base is distributed evenly around the room rather 
> than from a single point.  On the video side it upscaled everything to 4K 60 
> FPS complete with HDR video or you could genitive pass through if you wanted. 
>  You could also break up the 11 channels and have different speakers for 
> different zones so say 7.1 in the mail room and 5.1 in the other or 5.1 and 
> several sets of 2 etc.  The thing that blew me away though was the automatic 
> calibration and setup.  What would have taken an audio degree in my day to 
> configure used 8 microphone pickups that you scatter around the room and it 
> uses pink noise and other pulses to set itself up.  Also included WiFi so you 
> can grab your XM or other streamed content, it automatically software updated 
> and you could buy extra CODECS and decoders for different surround standards. 
>  All for $3000 which ain’t bad when you consider how many features you get.  
> There’s also an App for the iPad or iPhone to configure, supports bluetooth 
> and includes preamp outs in case the 260 watts per channel CLASS AB amps 
> weren’t good enough that are included.  You also get the full 260 watts class 
> AB on all channels, not just the fronts.  Each channel has 4 32 bit 
> convertors and they use 4 32 bit audicy DSP processors for signal 
> manipulation.  (It does a hell of a lot of math, something like 10 billion 
> flops)
> 
> You start adding speakers, installation of the speakers, cables, more 
> decoders and such and you get in to very tall money very quickly but when I 
> buy my next free standing house instead of a town house I know the way I’m 
> going.  The other interesting thing it supposedly had a mechanism that 
> isolated the sound with in your sound space so you didn’t blow your neighbors 
> out of their units next door.  I’m skeptical with over a kw of power.  They 
> didn’t have Sonos at this store, wasn’t high enough end for them:) but at 
> least I found myself a store that’s still hanging in there against the big 
> box shops and amazon.
> 
>> On Dec 1, 2016, at 3:51 AM, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hey David,
>> 
>> The sub woofer is a beast yes,
>> 
>> I was looking at the next step for my sound system and whether or not I 
>> could have the play bar and 2 subs 
>> 
>> See if it would work, no one can tell me 
>> 
>> But yeah they are bloody easy to setup and use,
>> 
>> Add more units to a room and then pair each pair together 
>> If you play them all as one synced room the sound is syncing perfectly,
>> If theaudio comes through different speakers in different rooms then there 
>> will be a delay.
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David Chittenden
>> Sent: Thursday, 1 December 2016 3:39 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Question about the Sonos products
>> 
>> Hi Scott,
>> 
>> We recently set up a Sonos system.
>> 
>> The Play One is a small speaker. It can do basic stereo sound, or it can 
>> work as part of a pair, or as part of a 5.1 surround system. I am not sure 
>> about part of a 7.1 system, and Sonos does not yet do upmos for vertical 
>> spacial hearing.
>> The Play Three and Play 5 can both also function as either a stereo speaker 
>> (laid horizontally,, or as the individual side of a stereo pair (laid 
>> vertically). Just set it up in the Sonos app.
>> 
>> My fiancé wanted to hire someone to set up the system, so I agreed that if I 
>> could not figure it out fairly quickly, we would bring in an installer. I am 
>> good with this sort of thing, but set-up is so simple that she could do it.
>> 
>> We purchased a PlayBar, two Play Threes, and three Play Ones. I was 
>> originally going to match the Play Threes with the PlayBar, but the store 
>> only had one in stock, so we put the single Play Three in the bedroom (where 
>> I was going to put a Play One. That would leave a play One for the bathroom 
>> and a play One for our office. The Play Ones worked so nicely with the 
>> PlayBar that the office was upgraded to the other Play Three. Oh, the family 
>> room also has the Sonos Sub. I really like this Sub. It is a brick. The 
>> speakers are inside and face each other. This allows for excellent deep base 
>> without any sub rattling. Sonos says it is because the two speakers facing 
>> each other cancels the rattle distortion out.
>> 
>> All the speakers can play the same thing, or each room can play different 
>> things, and changing is very easy in the app. My sighted partner absolutely 
>> loves the simplicity of the app. I love its accessibility.
>> 
>> Sonos states stereo pairs may only be created between two speakers of same 
>> type. So, one could use a play Three as center speaker, two Play Fives as 
>> front stereo speakers, and two Play Ones or Threes as surrounds, with the 
>> Sub for proper 5.1 sound, or one can use the PlayBar for the front with the 
>> Sub and surrounds. Sonos performs all the calculations for excellent sound 
>> internally within all the speakers. They sound quite good, and my fiancé 
>> says they sync perfectly with the visuals.
>> 
>> When we first started playing music through the surround system, the Play 
>> Ones were set on surround enhance mode. I changed it in the Sonos app to 
>> have the surrounds act as full speakers for music playback. Sonos remembers 
>> the change, and switches automatically depending on whether source is video 
>> or music. And, for set-up / video sound, it is just a digital optical cable 
>> from the TV to the playBar. Sonos uses the wifi in the house to create its 
>> own network. However, if there is no wifi network, the speakers can be 
>> connected together with cat5 cables.
>> 
>> As for sound, I have heard better speakers. A good friend has a pair which 
>> cost him $4,000 per speaker. Those sound fantastic. Sonos is not quite that 
>> good, and does not play anywhere near as loud. But, they sound better than 
>> anything I have owned before. They have excellent sound definition and 
>> excellent sound and frequency separation. Each speaker in the unit has its 
>> own digital amplifier, and this makes a significant difference. Also, Sonos 
>> regularly and automatically rolls out updates. The system updates late at 
>> night when not working, and they improve automatically.
>> 
>> Kind regards,
>> 
>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
>> Mobile: +61 488 988 936
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On 1/12/2016, at 13:59, Scott Granados <scott.grana...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi, so I’m looking for the Christmas gift for my Uncle who has everything.  
>>> I happen to know he doesn’t have a good home theater though and he likes 
>>> his music and TV.  I was looking at the Sonos system and I’m a little 
>>> unsure how this works.  I was looking at the play 5.  Do you need two of 
>>> these for stereo or do you get stereo sound from 1?  Also, to do 5.1 am I 
>>> reading on their site correctly that I’d put a play bar under the TV, run 
>>> an optical line to that and then put to play 5 speakers in the back of the 
>>> room?  Can I pair more than 2 say 4 if I want to simulate 7.1 or is 5.1 the 
>>> limit?  I know the app is accessibility from the list here but how is it 
>>> for sited users, very simple?  Anything else I should get with these like 
>>> speaker stands or how do they mount, do you need special brackets?  Any 
>>> pointers would be most appreciated.  This looks really cool actually I 
>>> might have to get one and have another accidentally fall in to the cart.  
>>> Can you try these out at Best Buy or other stores or they only available 
>>> online?  Any input would be most appreciated.
>>> 
>>> Thanks
>>> Scott
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