These were Klipsch horns and not sure what they had in the over head.  The ones 
I checked out by hand were a big pair of clipsch horns I like there stuff.  
Big, bulky and heavy but very efficient.

> On Dec 1, 2016, at 7:57 PM, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> So, Scott, inquiring minds want to know what kind of speakers they were 
> driving. I have always been partial to B and W high-end speakers. I do not 
> own any I hasten to add. I just like them a lot.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Dec 1, 2016, at 4:24 PM, Scott Granados <scott.grana...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> For a goof today I went and looked at a ultra high end receiver.  I mention 
>> it here on the Mac list because it was very configurable via safari which I 
>> actually tried and loved.  You can set up all sorts of 32 bit audio 
>> processing, automatic room equalization, but the kicker, Dolby Atmos and 
>> it’s own proprietary 3d emersion algorithm along with DTS Neo and several 
>> other objected oriented DTS formats.  Whoa!  I listened to an 11 channel 
>> setup, believe it or not, 11.2 where you had 11 channels and 2 subwoofers.  
>> Again, whoa!  Several sets of speakers were set in the front for an expanded 
>> sound stage in front of you, sides, back, and yes over head with 2 
>> subwoofers that automatically adjust so the base is distributed evenly 
>> around the room rather than from a single point.  On the video side it 
>> upscaled everything to 4K 60 FPS complete with HDR video or you could 
>> genitive pass through if you wanted.  You could also break up the 11 
>> channels and have different speakers for different zones so say 7.1 in the 
>> mail room and 5.1 in the other or 5.1 and several sets of 2 etc.  The thing 
>> that blew me away though was the automatic calibration and setup.  What 
>> would have taken an audio degree in my day to configure used 8 microphone 
>> pickups that you scatter around the room and it uses pink noise and other 
>> pulses to set itself up.  Also included WiFi so you can grab your XM or 
>> other streamed content, it automatically software updated and you could buy 
>> extra CODECS and decoders for different surround standards.  All for $3000 
>> which ain’t bad when you consider how many features you get.  There’s also 
>> an App for the iPad or iPhone to configure, supports bluetooth and includes 
>> preamp outs in case the 260 watts per channel CLASS AB amps weren’t good 
>> enough that are included.  You also get the full 260 watts class AB on all 
>> channels, not just the fronts.  Each channel has 4 32 bit convertors and 
>> they use 4 32 bit audicy DSP processors for signal manipulation.  (It does a 
>> hell of a lot of math, something like 10 billion flops)
>> 
>> You start adding speakers, installation of the speakers, cables, more 
>> decoders and such and you get in to very tall money very quickly but when I 
>> buy my next free standing house instead of a town house I know the way I’m 
>> going.  The other interesting thing it supposedly had a mechanism that 
>> isolated the sound with in your sound space so you didn’t blow your 
>> neighbors out of their units next door.  I’m skeptical with over a kw of 
>> power.  They didn’t have Sonos at this store, wasn’t high enough end for 
>> them:) but at least I found myself a store that’s still hanging in there 
>> against the big box shops and amazon.
>> 
>>> On Dec 1, 2016, at 3:51 AM, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hey David,
>>> 
>>> The sub woofer is a beast yes,
>>> 
>>> I was looking at the next step for my sound system and whether or not I 
>>> could have the play bar and 2 subs 
>>> 
>>> See if it would work, no one can tell me 
>>> 
>>> But yeah they are bloody easy to setup and use,
>>> 
>>> Add more units to a room and then pair each pair together 
>>> If you play them all as one synced room the sound is syncing perfectly,
>>> If theaudio comes through different speakers in different rooms then there 
>>> will be a delay.
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David Chittenden
>>> Sent: Thursday, 1 December 2016 3:39 PM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Question about the Sonos products
>>> 
>>> Hi Scott,
>>> 
>>> We recently set up a Sonos system.
>>> 
>>> The Play One is a small speaker. It can do basic stereo sound, or it can 
>>> work as part of a pair, or as part of a 5.1 surround system. I am not sure 
>>> about part of a 7.1 system, and Sonos does not yet do upmos for vertical 
>>> spacial hearing.
>>> The Play Three and Play 5 can both also function as either a stereo speaker 
>>> (laid horizontally,, or as the individual side of a stereo pair (laid 
>>> vertically). Just set it up in the Sonos app.
>>> 
>>> My fiancé wanted to hire someone to set up the system, so I agreed that if 
>>> I could not figure it out fairly quickly, we would bring in an installer. I 
>>> am good with this sort of thing, but set-up is so simple that she could do 
>>> it.
>>> 
>>> We purchased a PlayBar, two Play Threes, and three Play Ones. I was 
>>> originally going to match the Play Threes with the PlayBar, but the store 
>>> only had one in stock, so we put the single Play Three in the bedroom 
>>> (where I was going to put a Play One. That would leave a play One for the 
>>> bathroom and a play One for our office. The Play Ones worked so nicely with 
>>> the PlayBar that the office was upgraded to the other Play Three. Oh, the 
>>> family room also has the Sonos Sub. I really like this Sub. It is a brick. 
>>> The speakers are inside and face each other. This allows for excellent deep 
>>> base without any sub rattling. Sonos says it is because the two speakers 
>>> facing each other cancels the rattle distortion out.
>>> 
>>> All the speakers can play the same thing, or each room can play different 
>>> things, and changing is very easy in the app. My sighted partner absolutely 
>>> loves the simplicity of the app. I love its accessibility.
>>> 
>>> Sonos states stereo pairs may only be created between two speakers of same 
>>> type. So, one could use a play Three as center speaker, two Play Fives as 
>>> front stereo speakers, and two Play Ones or Threes as surrounds, with the 
>>> Sub for proper 5.1 sound, or one can use the PlayBar for the front with the 
>>> Sub and surrounds. Sonos performs all the calculations for excellent sound 
>>> internally within all the speakers. They sound quite good, and my fiancé 
>>> says they sync perfectly with the visuals.
>>> 
>>> When we first started playing music through the surround system, the Play 
>>> Ones were set on surround enhance mode. I changed it in the Sonos app to 
>>> have the surrounds act as full speakers for music playback. Sonos remembers 
>>> the change, and switches automatically depending on whether source is video 
>>> or music. And, for set-up / video sound, it is just a digital optical cable 
>>> from the TV to the playBar. Sonos uses the wifi in the house to create its 
>>> own network. However, if there is no wifi network, the speakers can be 
>>> connected together with cat5 cables.
>>> 
>>> As for sound, I have heard better speakers. A good friend has a pair which 
>>> cost him $4,000 per speaker. Those sound fantastic. Sonos is not quite that 
>>> good, and does not play anywhere near as loud. But, they sound better than 
>>> anything I have owned before. They have excellent sound definition and 
>>> excellent sound and frequency separation. Each speaker in the unit has its 
>>> own digital amplifier, and this makes a significant difference. Also, Sonos 
>>> regularly and automatically rolls out updates. The system updates late at 
>>> night when not working, and they improve automatically.
>>> 
>>> Kind regards,
>>> 
>>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
>>> Mobile: +61 488 988 936
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On 1/12/2016, at 13:59, Scott Granados <scott.grana...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi, so I’m looking for the Christmas gift for my Uncle who has everything. 
>>>>  I happen to know he doesn’t have a good home theater though and he likes 
>>>> his music and TV.  I was looking at the Sonos system and I’m a little 
>>>> unsure how this works.  I was looking at the play 5.  Do you need two of 
>>>> these for stereo or do you get stereo sound from 1?  Also, to do 5.1 am I 
>>>> reading on their site correctly that I’d put a play bar under the TV, run 
>>>> an optical line to that and then put to play 5 speakers in the back of the 
>>>> room?  Can I pair more than 2 say 4 if I want to simulate 7.1 or is 5.1 
>>>> the limit?  I know the app is accessibility from the list here but how is 
>>>> it for sited users, very simple?  Anything else I should get with these 
>>>> like speaker stands or how do they mount, do you need special brackets?  
>>>> Any pointers would be most appreciated.  This looks really cool actually I 
>>>> might have to get one and have another accidentally fall in to the cart.  
>>>> Can you try these out at Best Buy or other stores or they only available 
>>>> online?  Any input would be most appreciated.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks
>>>> Scott
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