Hell no dude,
 Gotta have the 11.2.

 

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Scott Granados
Sent: Saturday, 3 December 2016 6:36 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Question about the Sonos products

Hi Simon,

That’s correct, the receiver only is $3000, you have to buy up to 11 more 
speakers and 2 subs to get the fullest as well as an additional 2 channel 
amplifier.  You get 9 amplifiers built in to the receiver and an extra 2 
channels out which you attach to a second amplifier.  Certainly, 9.2 would be 
sufficient.


> On Dec 2, 2016, at 2:19 AM, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Scott,
> 
> I'm guessing that's not with speakers the 3K?
> 
> That sounds bloody amazing shame I don't own this house, I'd knock the living 
> room down and build my rooms around the stereo.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados
> Sent: Friday, 2 December 2016 1:24 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Question about the Sonos products
> 
> For a goof today I went and looked at a ultra high end receiver.  I 
> mention it here on the Mac list because it was very configurable via 
> safari which I actually tried and loved.  You can set up all sorts of 
> 32 bit audio processing, automatic room equalization, but the kicker, 
> Dolby Atmos and it’s own proprietary 3d emersion algorithm along with 
> DTS Neo and several other objected oriented DTS formats.  Whoa!  I 
> listened to an 11 channel setup, believe it or not, 11.2 where you had 
> 11 channels and 2 subwoofers.  Again, whoa!  Several sets of speakers 
> were set in the front for an expanded sound stage in front of you, 
> sides, back, and yes over head with 2 subwoofers that automatically 
> adjust so the base is distributed evenly around the room rather than 
> from a single point.  On the video side it upscaled everything to 4K 
> 60 FPS complete with HDR video or you could genitive pass through if 
> you wanted.  You could also break up the 11 channels and have 
> different speakers for different zones so say 7.1 in the mail room and 
> 5.1 in the other or 5.1 and several sets of 2 etc.  The thing that 
> blew me away though was the automatic calibration and setup.  What 
> would have taken an audio degree in my day to configure used 8 
> microphone pickups that you scatter around the room and it uses pink 
> noise and other pulses to set itself up.  Also included WiFi so you 
> can grab your XM or other streamed content, it automatically software 
> updated and you could buy extra CODECS and decoders for different 
> surround standards.  All for $3000 which ain’t bad when you consider 
> how many features you get.  There’s also an App for the iPad or iPhone 
> to configure, supports bluetooth and includes preamp outs in case the 
> 260 watts per channel CLASS AB amps weren’t good enough that are 
> included.  You also get the full 260 watts class AB on all channels, 
> not just the fronts.  Each channel has 4 32 bit convertors and they 
> use 4 32 bit audicy DSP processors for signal manipulation.  (It does 
> a hell of a lot of math, something like 10 billion flops)
> 
> You start adding speakers, installation of the speakers, cables, more 
> decoders and such and you get in to very tall money very quickly but when I 
> buy my next free standing house instead of a town house I know the way I’m 
> going.  The other interesting thing it supposedly had a mechanism that 
> isolated the sound with in your sound space so you didn’t blow your neighbors 
> out of their units next door.  I’m skeptical with over a kw of power.  They 
> didn’t have Sonos at this store, wasn’t high enough end for them:) but at 
> least I found myself a store that’s still hanging in there against the big 
> box shops and amazon.
> 
>> On Dec 1, 2016, at 3:51 AM, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hey David,
>> 
>> The sub woofer is a beast yes,
>> 
>> I was looking at the next step for my sound system and whether or not 
>> I could have the play bar and 2 subs
>> 
>> See if it would work, no one can tell me
>> 
>> But yeah they are bloody easy to setup and use,
>> 
>> Add more units to a room and then pair each pair together If you play 
>> them all as one synced room the sound is syncing perfectly, If 
>> theaudio comes through different speakers in different rooms then there will 
>> be a delay.
>> 
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>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David 
>> Chittenden
>> Sent: Thursday, 1 December 2016 3:39 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Question about the Sonos products
>> 
>> Hi Scott,
>> 
>> We recently set up a Sonos system.
>> 
>> The Play One is a small speaker. It can do basic stereo sound, or it can 
>> work as part of a pair, or as part of a 5.1 surround system. I am not sure 
>> about part of a 7.1 system, and Sonos does not yet do upmos for vertical 
>> spacial hearing.
>> The Play Three and Play 5 can both also function as either a stereo speaker 
>> (laid horizontally,, or as the individual side of a stereo pair (laid 
>> vertically). Just set it up in the Sonos app.
>> 
>> My fiancé wanted to hire someone to set up the system, so I agreed that if I 
>> could not figure it out fairly quickly, we would bring in an installer. I am 
>> good with this sort of thing, but set-up is so simple that she could do it.
>> 
>> We purchased a PlayBar, two Play Threes, and three Play Ones. I was 
>> originally going to match the Play Threes with the PlayBar, but the store 
>> only had one in stock, so we put the single Play Three in the bedroom (where 
>> I was going to put a Play One. That would leave a play One for the bathroom 
>> and a play One for our office. The Play Ones worked so nicely with the 
>> PlayBar that the office was upgraded to the other Play Three. Oh, the family 
>> room also has the Sonos Sub. I really like this Sub. It is a brick. The 
>> speakers are inside and face each other. This allows for excellent deep base 
>> without any sub rattling. Sonos says it is because the two speakers facing 
>> each other cancels the rattle distortion out.
>> 
>> All the speakers can play the same thing, or each room can play different 
>> things, and changing is very easy in the app. My sighted partner absolutely 
>> loves the simplicity of the app. I love its accessibility.
>> 
>> Sonos states stereo pairs may only be created between two speakers of same 
>> type. So, one could use a play Three as center speaker, two Play Fives as 
>> front stereo speakers, and two Play Ones or Threes as surrounds, with the 
>> Sub for proper 5.1 sound, or one can use the PlayBar for the front with the 
>> Sub and surrounds. Sonos performs all the calculations for excellent sound 
>> internally within all the speakers. They sound quite good, and my fiancé 
>> says they sync perfectly with the visuals.
>> 
>> When we first started playing music through the surround system, the Play 
>> Ones were set on surround enhance mode. I changed it in the Sonos app to 
>> have the surrounds act as full speakers for music playback. Sonos remembers 
>> the change, and switches automatically depending on whether source is video 
>> or music. And, for set-up / video sound, it is just a digital optical cable 
>> from the TV to the playBar. Sonos uses the wifi in the house to create its 
>> own network. However, if there is no wifi network, the speakers can be 
>> connected together with cat5 cables.
>> 
>> As for sound, I have heard better speakers. A good friend has a pair which 
>> cost him $4,000 per speaker. Those sound fantastic. Sonos is not quite that 
>> good, and does not play anywhere near as loud. But, they sound better than 
>> anything I have owned before. They have excellent sound definition and 
>> excellent sound and frequency separation. Each speaker in the unit has its 
>> own digital amplifier, and this makes a significant difference. Also, Sonos 
>> regularly and automatically rolls out updates. The system updates late at 
>> night when not working, and they improve automatically.
>> 
>> Kind regards,
>> 
>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
>> Mobile: +61 488 988 936
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On 1/12/2016, at 13:59, Scott Granados <scott.grana...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi, so I’m looking for the Christmas gift for my Uncle who has everything.  
>>> I happen to know he doesn’t have a good home theater though and he likes 
>>> his music and TV.  I was looking at the Sonos system and I’m a little 
>>> unsure how this works.  I was looking at the play 5.  Do you need two of 
>>> these for stereo or do you get stereo sound from 1?  Also, to do 5.1 am I 
>>> reading on their site correctly that I’d put a play bar under the TV, run 
>>> an optical line to that and then put to play 5 speakers in the back of the 
>>> room?  Can I pair more than 2 say 4 if I want to simulate 7.1 or is 5.1 the 
>>> limit?  I know the app is accessibility from the list here but how is it 
>>> for sited users, very simple?  Anything else I should get with these like 
>>> speaker stands or how do they mount, do you need special brackets?  Any 
>>> pointers would be most appreciated.  This looks really cool actually I 
>>> might have to get one and have another accidentally fall in to the cart.  
>>> Can you try these out at Best Buy or other stores or they only available 
>>> online?  Any input would be most appreciated.
>>> 
>>> Thanks
>>> Scott
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