I am becoming intrigued with the idea of using Chrome so may install it. Are there differences in keystrokes?

Is ChromeVox part of Chrome or is it a separate installation? And what is its purpose? Thanks.


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On 1/3/2017 3:20 PM, Tim Kilburn wrote:
Hi,

I find it useful.  There are some situations, especially in Google-land,
that ChromeVox is better at dealing with.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jan 3, 2017, at 16:19, Anders Holmberg <and...@pipkrokodil.se
<mailto:and...@pipkrokodil.se>> wrote:

Hi!
I actually don’t have chromevox installed.
Maybe i should take the plunge and do that.
/A
4 jan. 2017 kl. 00:03 skrev Tim Kilburn <kilbu...@me.com
<mailto:kilbu...@me.com>>:

Hi,

I just have Chrome set to update itself.  So, it simply does it in the
background and you don't even notice it.  Chrome does the updates
while the browser is open, so there's no need to restart the browser
or anything of the sort.  Updates to ChromeVox are also done on the
fly.  Occasionally, the style of update to ChromeVox requires you to
accept something, so it will remain disabled until that is accepted.
 In those cases, I just use VO to do what needs done in Chrome to
re-enable ChromeVox.

HTH.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jan 3, 2017, at 15:58, Anders Holmberg <and...@pipkrokodil.se
<mailto:and...@pipkrokodil.se>> wrote:

Hi!
Can chrome tell me when there are new updates for it availlable?
/A
1 jan. 2017 kl. 00:52 skrev Kevin Chao <kevincha...@gmail.com
<mailto:kevincha...@gmail.com>>:

Chrome beats Safari in performance, security, accessibility, and
other metrics.

On Sat, Dec 31, 2016 at 3:09 PM Scott Granados
<scott.grana...@gmail.com <mailto:scott.grana...@gmail.com>> wrote:

    From what I’ve read as well, google chrome is much more efficient
    in power use than safari.  Safari is supposedly a big power
    draw.  Some people are using chrome in it’s place for better
    battery results.

    > On Dec 31, 2016, at 10:33 AM, Alex Hall <mehg...@icloud.com
    <mailto:mehg...@icloud.com>> wrote:
    >
    > From all I've read, it's not as simple as that. The new
    processors have two modes, one high-power and one low-power,
    between which they switch constantly. Thus, any battery time
    indicator on the new Pro will almost certainly be inaccurate,
    because a few minutes at high power could be the same as a longer
    time at low power. This would cause the time estimate to be all
    over the place. Apple therefore decided to just show you the
    remaining percentage, just like it's done on iOS since the beginning.
    >
    > Personally, I much prefer this, or I would if I could read it.
    :) I'm so used to percentage only on iOS, and gauging time left
    by where my percentage is at a given point in the day, that it
    makes more sense to me. We all know no laptop battery time
    estimate is going to be very good, so I like having the raw
    percentage and doing my own estimate. Yes, there's more Apple
    could do here with better and more complex algarithms and models,
    but for now, this feels like a good solution and not the scandal
    some on Twitter and in the media want it to become. But that's
    just me.
    >
    > Sent from my iPhone
    >
    >> On Dec 31, 2016, at 10:18, Mike Arrigo <n0...@charter.net
    <mailto:n0...@charter.net>> wrote:
    >>
    >> Command+space is actually the default spotlight command, you
    could change that in keyboard preferences, but that's the default.
    >>> On Dec 31, 2016, at 9:05 AM, Alex Hall <mehg...@icloud.com
    <mailto:mehg...@icloud.com>> wrote:
    >>>
    >>> I don't knowhow, but my new Pro is set to open Spotlight when
    you hit cmd-space. If you hold that down for  a second, though,
    Siri appears.
    >>>
    >>> Sent from my iPhone
    >>>
    >>>> On Dec 31, 2016, at 09:23, Donna Goodin <doniado...@me.com
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    >>>>
    >>>> One small correction, I think you mean Option+Space. :)
    >>>> Cheers,
    >>>> Donna
    >>>>> On Dec 31, 2016, at 6:32 AM, Alex Hall <mehg...@icloud.com
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    >>>>>
    >>>>> As of Sierra, you can. Hold down cmd-space until you hear
    the tone, then speak. As far as I can tell, this is like iOS in
    that you can keep holding the keys down, or release them
    immediately and let Siri figure out, by a pause in your speaking,
    when you've finished your command.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> --
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    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>>> On Dec 31, 2016, at 07:27, 'Eleanor Roberts' via
    MacVisionaries <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
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    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> Hi. This is all very helpful. Just out of interest, how do
    you use Siri on the Mac?? I use it on my IPhone etc all the time,
    but didn't know you could do it on Mac too.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> Thanks.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> Eleanor
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> Sent from my iPad
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    >>>>>>> On 31 Dec 2016, at 05:00, 'Peggy' via MacVisionaries
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    >>>>>>> I have a Macbook Air. I didn't have a problem checking
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    use siri to check the battery, very easy to do.
    >>>>>>> Peggy and Dixie Marie
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> On Dec 30, 2016, at 4:02 PM, Mike Arrigo
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    >>>>>>> Hey everyone, going to cover a few different things in
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    battery in sierra? This happens on my 2010 macbook, and my girl
    friend's 2015 macbook pro. While in the status menus, moving left
    and right with the voiceover cursor allows you to get to the
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    >>>>>>> I can confirm that on the 2010 macbook, the same issue I
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    again, switching to a Nuance voice resolved it.
    >>>>>>> I actually got a Christmas present for myself, a new mac
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    sluggish as it used to be, surprisingly, I didn't notice much
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