I haven’t looked for direct TV as I’m a FIOS man myself.

The fire TV uses voice view which is becoming very advanced.  You not only get 
access to the native fire TV screens but the apps are becoming more and more 
accessible.

Hope that helps.

> On Jun 6, 2017, at 11:52 AM, Kliphton Miller <kliph...@icloud.com> wrote:
> 
> Really Scott?  I thought voiceover worked well on the 4th gen, what does 
> amazon fire TV use for accessibility?  I know it had a voice serch, but that 
> was very clunky and choppy when I tried it about a year ago, how much has it 
> improved?  Also, does fire TV have direct TV now as an available app?  With 
> the channels I get with direct tv now, I am not giving that up.
>> On Jun 6, 2017, at 11:47 AM, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Scott,
>>  I see. A friend lost his 3rd to a scumbag and at that time the 3rd was no 
>> longer available so he got a 4th. He is happy with it.
>> 
>> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
>> "God for you is where you sweep away all the
>> mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
>> our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
>> and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
>> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>> 
>> On 6/6/2017 8:41 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
>>> So the accessibility sucks on the Apple TV 4th gen.  I myself prefer the 
>>> 3rd get from the perspective of a. user.
>>> 
>>> The apps are hit and miss when it comes to accessibility.  The Amazon fire 
>>> TV is less expensive, more powerful in terms of graphics and processor and 
>>> in my opinion the accessibility is more consistent.
>>> 
>>>> On Jun 6, 2017, at 11:38 AM, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Scott,
>>>> Perhaps our viewing habits are different. Might bve I do not know what I 
>>>> am missing but the ATV 3rd works just fine for me. One reason I want a 4fh 
>>>> is to add apps not available on the 3rd. Got a 4th? Send it to me. (smiles)
>>>> 
>>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
>>>> "God for you is where you sweep away all the
>>>> mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
>>>> our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
>>>> and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
>>>> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>>> 
>>>> On 6/6/2017 8:29 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
>>>>> The Apple TV isn’t that great.  The amazon fire TV is a better unit in my 
>>>>> opinion.
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Jun 5, 2017, at 6:31 PM, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> A single keyboard that has all of the characters, no more switching to 
>>>>>> get numbers or punctuation.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Some other changes, one of which may be good is a Files app probably 
>>>>>> like Finder. Also a document scan function.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> iPhone 5 and 5c will be left behind as well as iPad 4th and older. I 
>>>>>> still have an iPad mini 2nd but would rather get an Apple TV 4th if I 
>>>>>> had the bucks.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
>>>>>> "God for you is where you sweep away all the
>>>>>> mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
>>>>>> our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
>>>>>> and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
>>>>>> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 6/5/2017 3:25 PM, Donna Goodin wrote:
>>>>>>> So I missed the event.  I'll watch it eventually, but what are people 
>>>>>>> excited about in IOS 11?  Also, any updates to the MBA?
>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>> Donna
>>>>>>>> On Jun 5, 2017, at 5:22 PM, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I will definitely get a new iPhone before September so I can run iOS 
>>>>>>>> 11.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
>>>>>>>> "God for you is where you sweep away all the
>>>>>>>> mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
>>>>>>>> our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
>>>>>>>> and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
>>>>>>>> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On 6/5/2017 1:38 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
>>>>>>>>> So what does everyone think of the announcements.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Personally, I’m going to leave the home speaker on the store shelf 
>>>>>>>>> but the new iMac Pro is calling my name.  Being able to have 18 cores 
>>>>>>>>> and 128 GB of RAM as well s 16 GB of video memory is pretty hot.  
>>>>>>>>> Granted the device starts a
>>>>>>>>> 
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