If you increase the mouse pointer to make it more visible, then
before dealing with the authorization, move the CCC window down some,
the pesky password window should be more easily seen. If its on top of
another window it is hard to pick out.
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On 10/14/2018 10:54 AM, Mike Arrigo wrote:
With this particular window, it does not show up in system dialogs at all,
trying to get to it using the application chooser will not work.
On Oct 14, 2018, at 11:08 AM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries
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I will sure take a closer look at this next time the password request comes
up. Your explanation made it pretty clear what is happening, thanks.
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On 10/13/2018 1:35 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:
Hi,
When you hear announcements like "Security Agent has no windows", or similarly
with some other agent, this is an invisible layer that sighted users would never notice,
but because we want VO to notice just about everything, those agents often take over VO
focus. Normally, cmd-tab, a physical click of the mouse or trackpad button, or in some
cases, the virtual click with VO-shift-space will bring focus back to the Finder. After
focus is on the Finder, you should be able to use the Application Chooser, or Window
Chooser to locate the necessary entry area. Note that the Security agent is a call to a
process, thus the entry area is not a window that belongs to the Security Agent, so doing
the Window Chooser while VO focus is within the security Agent will not be successful.
Hope this makes sense.
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On Oct 13, 2018, at 14:18, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries <[email protected]
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Unless I am mistaken, I hear "security agent has no window". And thus, I
have never been able to find it with the chooser.
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On 10/13/2018 1:10 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote:
I had tried that, unfortunately this one does not show as a system dialog, at
least it only happens on one of my macs and not all of them.
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Hi,
On my MBP with TouchBar, the Touch ID or password request does appear normally
without extra interventions. I recommend you use the method suggested by
Oriol, whereby you use the Application Chooser, VO-f1-f1. An item named System
Dialogs should be there, select it then go right and down to the appropriate
window. You should easily be able to enter your password in this situation.
There are a number of situations where System dialogs are present, but not
readily noticeable to us, but sighted users see them plainly in the way of
whatever we are focused on as VO users.
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On Oct 13, 2018, at 11:25, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries <[email protected]
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That is why I bother with clean installs, to make sure issues do not carry
over. I also have a MBP.
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On 10/13/2018 10:15 AM, Mike Arrigo wrote:
I noticed that as well, I did need to enter my mac password, whenever there is
a new major release of the operating system, I always erase my drive and do a
clean install to give everything a fresh start.
On Oct 13, 2018, at 10:31 AM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries <[email protected]
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If you can see a little, increase the mouse pointer size.
High Sierra has the same issue and I was hopeful it would be gone in Mojave.
As to Dropbox, if the app is already installed and you are prompted to sign
in, while VO will speak the fields as you navigate, it will not echo what you
are typing in. Enter your user ID then move VO and back so it will read it to
you. I have made Dropbox very aware of this but they need to hear from others
too..
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On 10/13/2018 6:58 AM, Mike Arrigo wrote:
I did get it to work but it really is a pain, you have to use the trackpad to
get the mouse in t the window and then click it, I will definitely be sending a
report to Apple on this one, it will be interesting to see if it happens with
my mac minis as well.
On Oct 13, 2018, at 8:41 AM, Mike Arrigo <[email protected]
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I will try Ann's suggestion, just doing vo+shift+space does not seem to work,
I'm actually surprised this got through testing, I would consider this to be a
major bug or a show stopper, I may consider going back to high sierra since I
never had the problem there.
On Oct 13, 2018, at 8:32 AM, Mike Arrigo <[email protected]
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Interesting, never had the problem in Sierra, that makes sense though, to do a
mouse click on the window. I can see good enough to know that there is a box on
the screen, I just can't read it or see good enough to move the mouse to it,
that is a major bug, I will try the mouse click idea.
On Oct 12, 2018, at 11:08 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries <[email protected]
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This has carried over from High Sierra. It is worse in Mojave. Its hit and miss. When you
hear the "security agent has no window" press VO plus shift plus space.
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On 10/12/2018 9:03 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote:
Hey everyone, ok, found an odd issue with Mojave, wonder if anyone else has
seen this, I'm not sure if it's voiceover related or the operating system
itself. When moving or copying files to any place outside of your home folder,
you are normally prompted for your password. However, in Mojave, voiceover says
security agent has no windows, a finder window appears saying that it's
preparing to copy files but since there is no way to enter the password, the
only way out of this window is to force the finder to relaunch. This is on my
new macbook air, have not tried it on my mac minis yet.
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