Can Grub be installed on a recent Mac? If so, it might be your solution.

I know their UEFI implementation is non-standard, but it's still a worthwhile 
question.

On 6/3/19, 14:37, "'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries" 
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    I can't imagine what that could be.
    
    I note that grub offers the option of playing sound. If one wants sound
    in a grub mediated boot, one is able to add a directive to provide that.
    
    'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries writes:
    > Hi,
    > 
    > I'm not sure why they removed it either.  I've made my noise to some 
Apple System Engineers, but really haven't got any traction.  There's probably 
some firmware level security reason, but I'm not smart enough to know it.
    > 
    > Later...
    > 
    > Tim Kilburn
    > Apple Teacher
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    > 
    > 
    > 
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    > On Jun 3, 2019, at 11:50, Julie Rattray <julierattra...@gmail.com> wrote:
    > 
    > Hi,
    > 
    > I have a 2018 model and no boot chime I really missed it in many ways and 
have wondered why the removed it 
    > 
    > > On 3 Jun 2019, at 18:48, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
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    > > Hi,
    > > 
    > > The MBP models no longer have the Boot Chime.  I have the 2017 model 
and it does not have the Boot Chime.  I'm pretty sure that all the new release 
models no longer have the Boot Chime.
    > > 
    > > Later...
    > > 
    > > Tim Kilburn
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    > > 
    > > <jamf-certified-associate-bad...@2x.jpg>
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    > >  Jamf Certified Associate
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    > > On Jun 3, 2019, at 11:45, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
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    > > I'm also interested in this question and wondering whether the 2017
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    > > Janina
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    > >> I've been using a mac book pro 2018 for almost a year and I still 
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