The other thing for me is that upgrading is kind of the gift that keeps on giving. I really do get a crazy good price on a new phone from my employer. Part of that is based on trading in my old phone. So, this year, for example, I’ll get much more for trading in a 12 than I would for trading in an 11 or an SE, which in turn, reduces the price on the new phone. So staying with the current model pays off. Cheers, Donna
> On Sep 20, 2021, at 8:29 AM, <[email protected]> <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Good point about the OCR and other apps that use artificial intelligence and > the neural engine. > I have not noticed any significant lag when VoiceOver tries to describe > images in apps using the SE 2020 IN IOS 14. > I’d consider the Mini iPhones if it had touch ID. > That is more important to me than power since I have a M1 mac and a Windows > PC capable of scanning documents. > > From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> > Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 9:24 AM > To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > Subject: Re: IPhone SE 2020 (2nd generation) > > I think this is very much a question of personal preference. I understand > what you’re saying, but I like my devices to run fast. Patience is not one > of my greatest virtues. So, is there any app that wouldn’t run on the SE? > Probably not. Will those apps run faster on a 13 mini? Undoubtedly. And > personally, that’s something I care about. Not saying everyone has to care > about that, but I do. Also, as Apple does more with screen recognition, AI, > and spatial audio, the more powerful phones will be able to make better use > of those features. > Cheers, > Donna > >> On Sep 20, 2021, at 8:05 AM, <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> >> Why do you feel you need the extra power? >> I find the SE very responsive, and sometimes users do not need the latest >> phones to accomplish the tasks they need. >> Is there an app that you can’t run on the SE? >> Apple is like any other company in that they can’t produce something new >> every year that no one has seen before. >> Sometimes, it is just upgrades. >> There is nothing wrong with that, but it is a good idea to pause and ask >> yourself if this is really something worth buying based on your own needs. >> The older iPad 5th generation was something new that I had not used before, >> and I wanted something with better sound quality. >> >> >> >> From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> >> Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 7:57 AM >> To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: IPhone SE 2020 (2nd generation) >> >> I have to say that my biggest disappointment in Apple’s presentation last >> week was that the new phones won’t have touch ID. I have the 12 mini, and >> I’ll probably upgrade to the 13 mini, but only because I get a good upgrade >> price through my employer. Were it not for that, I’d probably not upgrade. >> I just can’t justify switching to the SE, because it’s got so much less >> power than the other phones. >> Cheers, >> Donna >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> >> >>> On Sep 20, 2021, at 1:25 AM, 'Shawn Krasniuk' via MacVisionaries >>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Yeah I like my iPhone SE 2020 as well. I'm gonna stick with this phone as >>> long as I can because I really don't like Face ID. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Shawn, >>> Sent from Sophia, the MacBook Air >>> >>> Want to join my WhatsApp groups such as Echo Enthusiasts, Accessibility >>> Matters, Mac Users And Newbies or the Tech Zone? Send me a private email >>> with your contact information and the group you wish to join and I'll >>> happily add you. >>> >>> Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk >>> Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs >>> Skype username: bbstheblindrapper >>> Facetime: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>> >>> >>> >>>> On Sep 18, 2021, at 5:01 PM, <[email protected] >>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> <[email protected] >>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>> >>>> The sound quality on the SE is good, but it doesn't match the Mac or iPad. >>>> The only limitation for the SE2020 is that it doesn't support Lidar, and I >>>> do not think it has 5G. >>>> However, those features are not a priority for me. >>>> I just hope that it will continue to receive IOS updates now that the >>>> iPhone Mini 12 and 13 are out. >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: [email protected] >>>> <mailto:[email protected]><[email protected] >>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> On Behalf Of Tali Sarnetzky >>>> Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2021 5:59 PM >>>> To: [email protected] >>>> <mailto:[email protected]> >>>> Subject: Re: IPhone SE 2020 (2nd generation) >>>> >>>> Hi. >>>> >>>> I must say I am very happy with mine too. >>>> When I got it, my original SE was still working well, although I was using >>>> IOS 11 on it. lol >>>> >>>> It's very responsive and most times I have no issue with it. >>>> I even enjoy listening to music on it while I work, without any external >>>> speaker. The sound quality is quite good. >>>> >>>> Hope this helps. >>>> >>>> Take care, >>>> Tali >>>> >>>> On 9/19/21, [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> I love the iPhone SE 2020. >>>>> It is the same size as the iPhone 7 and iPhone 8. >>>>> It is fast though there have been complaints about the battery. >>>>> It is the best iPhone I've owned. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries >>>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >>>>> >>>>> Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2021 5:20 PM >>>>> To: 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries <[email protected] >>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> >>>>> Subject: IPhone SE 2020 (2nd generation) >>>>> >>>>> Hello, >>>>> >>>>> I’ve decided to upgrade from iphone 8 to iphone SE 2nd generation (2020). >>>>> My reasons are to do with the touch ID sensor. 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