You need to set up the accessibility shortcut to be voiceover if you have it 
set up correctly when you see the accessibility shortcut it should say 
“Accessibility ShortcutAccessibility Shortcut, VoiceOver”
If it doesn’t say that, you need to go double tap on that and look down until 
you see the word voice ability voice over and double tap that item to set that 
as a shortcut the shortcut is what happens when you click the side button three 
times.



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From: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2021 2:01:53 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Turning voiceover on and off quickly

Hi,

You are correct in that you did not say about triple-tapping on the screen.  
That was someone else who was trying to help, so I mentioned that so you did 
not try to do it and find out that it wasn’t what you were looking for.

Yes, using Siri as Dave mentioned is totally an option.  Alternatively, go to 
Settings, Accessibility, then scroll to the bottom of this screen to the 
Accessibility Shortcut item.  Make sure that it is still set to toggle 
VoiceOver on/off.  You only want it to have VoiceOver selected, otherwise it 
will bring up a menu of choices instead of simply turning off/on VoiceOver.

Later…


Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Professional Learning Specialist
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Oct 20, 2021, at 1:39 AM, 'Andy Logue' via MacVisionaries 
<macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:

Hi Tim and Dave.

I never mentioned a 3 finger triple tap.  I didn't know of it's excistance.

What I meant to say is that I used to press the home button 3 times rapidly to 
disarm voice over and 4 times to turn it back on.

This allowed my sighted wife to help me create a new contact for example.

I'm not sure how by simply turning the volume of voice over up or down would be 
of help in any circumstances and would still burden the sighted person by it's 
interference.

Incidentally, time mentioned Serie for turning voice over off and on.

Do you mean that I'd press the home button for a few seconds, until I hear a 
tone then say something like "Serie, turn voice over on" or whatever.

Thanks guys for any assistance.

Very best wishes,

Andy Logue.


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To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2021 3:03 PM
Subject: Re: Turning voiceover on and off quickly

Hi,

Actually, a three-finger double-tap does not toggle VoiceOver on and off.  The 
three-finger double-tap toggles on/off VoiceOver speech, but VoiceOver gesture 
navigation remains on.  This would be problematic for a sighted user as their 
normal gestures would not work as expected.  Therefore, you could confirm that 
the Accessibility shortcut is still set correctly as Doug suggested, or you 
could use Siri to turn VO on and off.

Later…

Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Professional Learning Specialist
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Oct 19, 2021, at 7:45 AM, tim m 
<mrga...@gmail.com<mailto:mrga...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Just do a 3 finger double tap, turns vo on and off.
On 10/19/2021 6:29 AM, 'Andy Logue' via MacVisionaries wrote:
Hi all.

I used to  press the home button, on my iphone, three times to quickly turn 
voice over off or on again, when handing my phone to a sighted user when they 
were helping me.

This no longer seems to work so I've got to go the long way around by going 
into settings, accessability and then voice over.

Can anyone tell me of a quick way of doing this, theses days.

Very best wishes.

Andy Logue.


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