I tried that with my KVM switch and that didn't work.  It was the
monitor connected directly to it powered off or nothing.



On Thu, 1 Apr 2010 21:20:15 -0500
"Brent Harding" <[email protected]> wrote:

> Wow, and they know there's a powered off monitor versus none at all, just 
> hooked to the adapter? What about just a connector put into the VGA port, 
> take an old VGA cable and chop off the connector and plug that into the VGA 
> to DVI thingy.
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Chris G" <[email protected]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2010 7:31 PM
> Subject: Re: My Mac Mini
> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Now I understand what you and the other user are saying, when you leark
> for months before buying your mac mini and you read time and time again
> that yes it works without a monitor, yes it works without a monitor and
> yes it works without a monitor, it is frustrating when you buy it
> because you don't need the monitor only to find out that oh, I guess you
> do need a monitor.
> 
> It wasn't a real issue for me until I upgraded to snow leopard, then
> browsing the net was all but useless.
> I ended up having to buy a mini to vga adaptor and connect a 15 inch
> flat panel monitor to it.  The monitor isn't even on neither is it
> plugged into electricity.
> 
> Truthfully If I knew I needed a monitor connected when I bought my mini
> I wouldn't have bought it and would've got an iMac or MacBook instead.
> I didn't get the $500 mini either, I got the $800 mini.
> 
> 
> 
> On Thu, 1 Apr 2010 19:02:52 -0400
> Bryan Smart <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> > Its fine to experiment with round pegs and square holes, also. But, if 
> > things don't work out, that is an obstacle for you to overcome or forget 
> > about. Round pegs weren't designed to work in square holes, and the people 
> > that make either won't have a lot of sympathy that you aren't using their 
> > products as intended.
> >
> > Bryan
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [email protected] 
> > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ricardo Walker
> > Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2010 1:02 PM
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: My Mac Mini
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > I think people are confusing portable with mobile.  It is a small 
> > difference but a difference none the less between the 2.  The mac mini is 
> > a portable desktop.  It was not meant to be moved from room to room like a 
> > cordless phone.  lol.  This Is why there is no battery.  You can move it 
> > easily enough but really.  Its a stationary machine.  It not working 
> > without a monitor is not a bug.  Who but blind people would even dream of 
> > using a computer with no monitor.  What if there is a problem where you 
> > require sighted assistants?  Do you then scramble to get a monitor, or 
> > must they bring their own to the party.  lol.  A macbook is a mobile 
> > computer.  Meant to go with you anywhere.  Note the battery and keyboard 
> > built into the machine , with trackpad and monitor.  I just kind a feel 
> > like some people are trying to put the round peg in the square hole here.
> > On Apr 1, 2010, at 10:40 AM, Joe Plummer wrote:
> >
> > > No, I dis agree with this. They made it small and portable just so you
> > > could move it around easily. Now for the monitor part you can get real
> > > small monitor like a 7 or 9 inch monitor to do what you want that is
> > > very portable and some even runs off a battery.
> > >
> > >
> > > Sign,
> > > JP ( Joe Plummer)
> > > [email protected]
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [email protected]
> > > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Bryan Smart
> > > Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2010 10:25 AM
> > > To: [email protected]
> > > Subject: RE: My Mac Mini
> > >
> > > I think that people are getting the concept of the Mini all wrong.
> > >
> > > The Mini is not a laptop. If you try to use it like some sort of
> > > portable, then you're of course free to try, but Apple has not
> > > designed it to be a portable computer, and so, if it doesn't work like
> > > that, they won't care that you can't make it suit that purpose. Its
> > > also not intended to be a headless Mac for blind people.
> > >
> > > The Mini is designed to fit two types of situations only.
> > >
> > > 1. You don't know if Mac is for you, and you want a cheap way to try it 
> > > out.
> > >
> > > 2. You need a low-powered Mac to handle some basic tasks, such as
> > > being a home or small office server.
> > >
> > > That's it.
> > >
> > > If the Mini feels underpowered, it is because its underpowered. It is
> > > powered by a mobile processor, uses laptop memory, and slower laptop
> > > hard drives.
> > >
> > > If the Mini sucks at being a portable computer, it is because it isn't
> > > a portable computer. Its a cheap desktop Mac.
> > >
> > > If the Mini sucks as a headless Mac, then that is because it isn't
> > > designed to run without a monitor. People are supposed to buy a Mini
> > > to use with their existing PC hardware, as part of evaluating if
> > > they'd like to really use Mac in the future. Of course, using a Mac
> > > with a PC keyboard and mouse means that you miss out on a lot, also.
> > > Stil, it is a way to try this stuff to see if you'll like it, or if it
> > > will be a waste of money, without forcing you to pay a lot for the 
> > > chance to try it out.
> > >
> > > If you're serious at all about using the Mac, you probably won't stay
> > > with a Mini for very long. The internal hard drives are slow, the
> > > capacity won't go any higher than 500GB, the memory won't expand very
> > > far, the processor is underpowered, so on and so on.
> > >
> > > Not trying to rain on your parade. I love hacking around with what's
> > > possible in equipment. The thing is, if, after using a Mini, you've
> > > become serious enough to get frustrated with what it can't do, then it
> > > is time to sell your Mini to another newbie, and upgrade to a MacBook,
> > > an IMac, or a Mac Pro that will do more.
> > >
> > > For example, if you're moving a computer from room to room to browse
> > > the web, then you really should be using a MacBook.
> > >
> > > Bryan
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [email protected]
> > > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Chris G
> > > Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2010 8:30 AM
> > > To: [email protected]
> > > Subject: Re: My Mac Mini
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > It makes it more convenient to move the mini from room to room within
> > > ones house.  Now you need to move a monitor just to browse the web.
> > >
> > > Chris
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, 1 Apr 2010 07:23:44 -0400
> > > Ricardo Walker <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Hi,
> > >>
> > >> I was just wondering why people find this so important?  Monitors are
> > >> very
> > > cheap and you can even hook up Your Mac to newer TVs.
> > >> On Mar 31, 2010, at 10:23 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> I myself have not reported but I might even though I own a macbook.
> > >>>
> > >>> Take care.
> > >>> On Mar 31, 2010, at 5:34 PM, E.J. Zufelt wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>> Good evening,
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Has this issue been reported to [email protected]?  Perhaps
> > > there's nothing that they can do, but it might be worth sending a
> > > quick message.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Everett Zufelt
> > >>>> http://zufelt.ca
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Follow me on Twitter
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> > >>>> View my LinkedIn Profile
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> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On 2010-03-31, at 8:31 PM, Dan Roy wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> Yes, that's definitely true, I wish I had known that before I
> > > purchased the mini, but, live and learn.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> On Mar 31, 2010, at 8:35 AM, M BROWN wrote:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> Several months ago I bought a Mac Mini without a monitor.
> > >>>>>> Everything
> > > went well until I tried to use Safari to browse the web. To say the
> > > least, it was painfully slow, and at times refused to open the web
> > > page at all. All I got was Safari busy. However, when I attached a
> > > monitor, all the above problems went away. Even though I do not have
> > > the monitor powered up, it still works perfectly. So, just a warning
> > > to anyone buying a Mac Mini who intends to browse the web, forget it 
> > > unless you have a monitor attached.
> > >>>>>> Kind regards
> > >>>>>> Martin
> > >>>>>>
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