Hi,

I seriously doubt that is the case. Apple accessibility has been around for six 
years now, not three. I doubt NFB had anything to do with it. Apple is going to 
keep it up because they are committed. The article about the lawsuit doesn't 
actually mention Apple much.

There is actually a very good point of view. Apple poses a threat to the NFB of 
taking over the technical market. This is why NFB did not sue Skype, but Apple. 
Agreement or not, I'm pretty sure they listened to users using Outspoken and 
such, rather than an organization that can't even review the product properly 
when it is out. Apple has done far more than anyone for accessibility 
improvements. Apple said they had something in store, and they sure did. I of 
course realize that it is a pretty serious statement. Of course, I am not 
particularly a fan of the NFB at all. Saying that, NFB has made some seriously 
inaccurate statements as well, far outweighing mine. NFB actually has no reason 
to sue Apple. What would they sue them for, exactly? Because their products are 
accessible, and they want everyone to pay more than what a Macbook costs for 
assistive technology? That wouldn't actually surprise me much. It's all about 
competition. If they think they're about to be kicked out, of course they would 
consider Apple a threat. Because Apple has done something Microsoft has not. 
All these things sound really twisted and disgusting to me.

Apple can hardly be sued for their effort. Their lawsuit had to do with iTunes 
on the Windows side. Fair enough, but that is a pretty ridiculous suit if it 
really is based on accessibility. That is not the case, however, as there are 
plenty of other useful programs for PCs that are not anywhere near as 
accessible as iTunes 9. And NFB doesn't care about that. Which, again, leads me 
to believe that, because NFB is scared of being kicked out, they do everything 
they can to stop people buying their product. That would make sense.

Windows users rely on scripts all the time to use any application. I suggest 
you look through your jAWS folder to see what I mean. Have you even seen just 
the download size of a JAWS installation? It's outrageous. People who moan 
about iTunes not being accessible just because the interface accidentally 
broke, just need to use scripts like they do for everything else. I'm surprised 
that wasn't their first complaint. JAWS, or just Windows in general, isn't even 
that stable. If JAWS crashes, it's stupidly difficult most of the time to 
reload the product. Even if you manage to do so, you will probably run into the 
screen not being read correctly when reading list boxes or with the cursor. Or, 
the worst-case scenario. You have to uninstall JAWS 11 after attempting to 
install Video Intercept, reinstall JAWS 10, install VIdeo Intercept, uninstall 
JAWS 10 then reinstall JAWS 11.

Maybe I'm slamming the NFB a bit, but really, they need a kick in the ass. I'm 
just happy the Danish blindness organizations are not this corrupt and twisted, 
and they actually review fairly and take a proper look at what a company offers 
before suing them. I'll always be negative about the NFB, though I am actually 
being neutral when talking about the actual lawsuit itself.

Say what you want to, it won't change my mind. Even if it is someone from NFB 
saying it. Some NFB people are great. Some do incredibly good reviews. Some 
don't. And in whole, I think the organization just sucks for filing unnecessary 
lawsuits for nothing. Maybe I'm going on a childish tantrum here, perhaps. But 
once in a while, you need to. A company is trying to provide great 
accessibility for their products, and they are sued because of one problem. 
iTunes is actually still useful on the Windows side, people. Quit your darn 
nitpicking.

Regards,
Nic
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On Apr 15, 2010, at 8:08 AM, Rob Lambert wrote:

> I just got wind, from a friend of mine, that the only reason Apple is 
> accessible to us is because of a lawsuit by the NFB. The term of the 
> agreement was for accessibility improvements for three years. Here's a 
> question. First, what's your side of this ordeal? Second, who thinks Apple 
> will keep up with the accessibility improvements after this three year term 
> is up? I apologize for making smooth waters mirky, I just wanted to know what 
> your take on this was. 
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