Hi, That's alright. God, I feel better. It's one of those things I can keep going on about and never stop.
Regards, Nic Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: [email protected] AIM: cincinster yahoo Messenger: cin368 Facebook Profile My Twitter On Apr 15, 2010, at 9:31 AM, Rob Lambert wrote: > I apologize if I opened a can of worms. > > On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 12:30 AM, Anne Robertson <[email protected]> wrote: > Hello Nic, > > Thank you for this post. You've just saved me from going on a major rant > along the same lines. > > Cheers, > > Anne > > On Apr 15, 2010, at 9:14 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > I seriously doubt that is the case. Apple accessibility has been around for > > six years now, not three. I doubt NFB had anything to do with it. Apple is > > going to keep it up because they are committed. The article about the > > lawsuit doesn't actually mention Apple much. > > > > There is actually a very good point of view. Apple poses a threat to the > > NFB of taking over the technical market. This is why NFB did not sue Skype, > > but Apple. Agreement or not, I'm pretty sure they listened to users using > > Outspoken and such, rather than an organization that can't even review the > > product properly when it is out. Apple has done far more than anyone for > > accessibility improvements. Apple said they had something in store, and > > they sure did. I of course realize that it is a pretty serious statement. > > Of course, I am not particularly a fan of the NFB at all. Saying that, NFB > > has made some seriously inaccurate statements as well, far outweighing > > mine. NFB actually has no reason to sue Apple. What would they sue them > > for, exactly? Because their products are accessible, and they want everyone > > to pay more than what a Macbook costs for assistive technology? That > > wouldn't actually surprise me much. It's all about competition. If they > > think they're about to be kicked out, of course they would consider Apple a > > threat. Because Apple has done something Microsoft has not. All these > > things sound really twisted and disgusting to me. > > > > Apple can hardly be sued for their effort. Their lawsuit had to do with > > iTunes on the Windows side. Fair enough, but that is a pretty ridiculous > > suit if it really is based on accessibility. That is not the case, however, > > as there are plenty of other useful programs for PCs that are not anywhere > > near as accessible as iTunes 9. And NFB doesn't care about that. Which, > > again, leads me to believe that, because NFB is scared of being kicked out, > > they do everything they can to stop people buying their product. That would > > make sense. > > > > Windows users rely on scripts all the time to use any application. I > > suggest you look through your jAWS folder to see what I mean. Have you even > > seen just the download size of a JAWS installation? It's outrageous. People > > who moan about iTunes not being accessible just because the interface > > accidentally broke, just need to use scripts like they do for everything > > else. I'm surprised that wasn't their first complaint. JAWS, or just > > Windows in general, isn't even that stable. If JAWS crashes, it's stupidly > > difficult most of the time to reload the product. Even if you manage to do > > so, you will probably run into the screen not being read correctly when > > reading list boxes or with the cursor. Or, the worst-case scenario. You > > have to uninstall JAWS 11 after attempting to install Video Intercept, > > reinstall JAWS 10, install VIdeo Intercept, uninstall JAWS 10 then > > reinstall JAWS 11. > > > > Maybe I'm slamming the NFB a bit, but really, they need a kick in the ass. > > I'm just happy the Danish blindness organizations are not this corrupt and > > twisted, and they actually review fairly and take a proper look at what a > > company offers before suing them. I'll always be negative about the NFB, > > though I am actually being neutral when talking about the actual lawsuit > > itself. > > > > Say what you want to, it won't change my mind. Even if it is someone from > > NFB saying it. Some NFB people are great. Some do incredibly good reviews. > > Some don't. And in whole, I think the organization just sucks for filing > > unnecessary lawsuits for nothing. Maybe I'm going on a childish tantrum > > here, perhaps. But once in a while, you need to. A company is trying to > > provide great accessibility for their products, and they are sued because > > of one problem. iTunes is actually still useful on the Windows side, > > people. Quit your darn nitpicking. > > > > Regards, > > Nic > > Skype: Kvalme > > MSN Messenger: [email protected] > > AIM: cincinster > > yahoo Messenger: cin368 > > Facebook Profile > > My Twitter > > > > On Apr 15, 2010, at 8:08 AM, Rob Lambert wrote: > > > >> I just got wind, from a friend of mine, that the only reason Apple is > >> accessible to us is because of a lawsuit by the NFB. The term of the > >> agreement was for accessibility improvements for three years. Here's a > >> question. First, what's your side of this ordeal? Second, who thinks Apple > >> will keep up with the accessibility improvements after this three year > >> term is up? 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