Hello Everyone, I sure hope they do.
Peter Donahue -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Herbie Allen Sent: Tuesdays, October 21, 2025 8:40 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: The Apple Danger Zone We probably never hear about it because it’s a rare thing. Even if Apple didn’t say anything, I think it would come up in other media. But there are certain ways your info can be gotten. Medical ID for one, and Law enforcement does have avenues to work with Apple. > On Oct 21, 2025, at 20:30, [email protected] wrote: > > Good evening everyone, > > Something that we don't hear about from Apple is when their security > measures resulted in tragety for some of their customers. If I have an > accident and can't speak for myself but had an iPhone I would want Police and > EMS to have access to my personal information to render medical assistance > and to contact next of kin. We hear from Apple about the lives their > technologies saved but not about those that died because those rendering aid > were unable to access their patient's vital medical information due to their > patient's Apple Account being locked. This is a quite plausible scenario > something all technology developers must consider particularly when it comes > to health-related apps. Praise God we don't have this issue with Android > Devices. > > Peter Donahue > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries > <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, October 21, s2025 6:55 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: iPad constantly asking for my passcode > > ET, > > Your logic is faulty. Think about it. My iPad, which sits on my desk and is > barely used, has this ridiculous level of protection. My phone, on the other > hand, which I use constantly, is with me wherever I go and thus much more > likely to fall into nefarious hands, does not. Apple obviously set it up > this way because they knew we’d all go bonkers if we had to enter our > passcode every tine we unlocked our phones. So they’re willing to sacrifice > security when they know it would cost them customers, but if we’re talking > about some device that’s hardly used, well then, let’s pull out all the > security stops. That makes absolutely no sense. Of course I wouldn’t be > happy if any of my I-devices were hacked or stolen. Ultimately, though, it > should be incumbent upon the user to decide how much security they want to > implement, and what level of risk is appropriate to their needs and to the > specific device. I assure you that if I used my iPad for work or even for > more substantive tasks, I might—emphasize might—make different choices. But > those choices should be mine to make. > Cheers, > Donna > >> On Oct 21, 2025, at 6:32 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Perhaps I watch too much news. >> >> But let's flip the coin for a moment and consider your reaction should that >> iPad goes missing while its unprotected. >> >> >> From E.T.'s Keyboard... >> Reality.sys corrupted. Universe halted. Reboot(Y/N) ? >> >> My e-Mail: >> [email protected] >> >> On 10/21/2025 3:43 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote: >>> ET, >>> >>> No one knows my usage patterns like I do. Yes, Apple allowing someone to >>> adjust this setting could result in problems for someone who isn’t careful. >>> But that isn’t the case here. I mostly use my phone. I only use my iPad >>> occasionally, and it never leaves my house. So yeah, I’d feel safe >>> extending that window to a week or two. Given that for 99% of users, the >>> iPad is a secondary device, I think every 24 hours is overkill. >>> Cheers, >>> Donna >>> >>> >>>> On Oct 21, 2025, at 5:23 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries >>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> Donna, dare I share this time worn saying? Better safe than sorry. >>>> >>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard... >>>> Reality.sys corrupted. Universe halted. Reboot(Y/N) ? >>>> >>>> My e-Mail: >>>> [email protected] >>>> >>>> On 10/21/2025 3:14 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote: >>>>> Hi Karen, >>>>> >>>>> Thanks for the suggestion. Unfortunately, I don’t think that setting is >>>>> present in iPadOS. I looked for it, and googled it, but no luck. So I >>>>> suspect Brad, ET and Rajiv are right. While I understand the logic of >>>>> the current setup, I do wish Apple would allow users to configure it. >>>>> Especially on an iPad, it doesn’t seem that implausible that an iPad >>>>> might sit dormant for more than 24 hours. I’d like to be Able to extend >>>>> it to a week or two. >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> Donna >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> On Oct 21, 2025, at 4:11 PM, Karen Lewellen <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi Donna, >>>>>> No idea if this will help. >>>>>> Still, there is, or was, a setting in security / privacy that would >>>>>> impact the time factor? >>>>>> Reason why I am unsure is that it is a mac os setting, which I would >>>>>> hope got carried over to IOS? >>>>>> Kare >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, 21 Oct 2025, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks for responding. I guess I’m stuck with it. *sigh* >>>>>>> Cheers, Donna >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Oct 21, 2025, at 2:56 PM, Rajiv Shah <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi Donna. From my experience, the security settings on iOS >>>>>>>> require users to input their passcode when a device has been >>>>>>>> dormant for 24 hours or more. Others may have additional input. >>>>>>>> Thank you. RAjiv >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On October 21, 2025 2:26:10 PM "'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries" >>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> If I don’t log into my iPad for a couple of days, it requires me to >>>>>>>>> enter my passcode rather than using Touch ID. This is kind of >>>>>>>>> annoying, because I don’t use my iPad as often. Is there some way, >>>>>>>>> other than completely disabling my passcode to extend the time before >>>>>>>>> I am required to enter it? >>>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>>> Donna >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >>>>>>>>> Visionaries list. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, >>>>>>>>> or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact >>>>>>>>> the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list >>>>>>>>> itself. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. 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