I agree! I keep it in my quick settings because I have to change it for demonstrations but otherwise, unless you are constantly changing it, then just remove it from the roter and you are all set.
> On Feb 15, 2026, at 11:49, Dave Carlson <[email protected]> wrote: > > Once again, I ask: Why have speech rate on the rotor at all? I removed it > years ago exactly because I was irritated by accidentally changing it. Pick a > speech rate and stick with it. When I need to check for syntax or spelling > then I rotor to words or characters and move along that way for that specific > need. > > > Dave Carlson > Farfar, Oregonian, Engineer, Musician, Woodworker, and Pioneer > > On Feb 15, 2026, at 8:39 AM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries > <[email protected]> wrote: > > Why wait? A few seconds using the 2 finger rotation will immediately > resolve the speech rate problem. > > From E.T.'s Keyboard... > "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution > inevitable." > -John F. Kennedy > My e-Mail: > [email protected] > *-* *-* *-* *-* > > On 2/15/2026 6:56 AM, meikle.aiden via MacVisionaries wrote: >> Hi ET. >> >> I'll try and do this tomorrow until I get it. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Andy Logue. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries <[email protected]> >> Sent: 15 February 2026 14:38 >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: Slowing speach down on Iphone 16e >> >> Again, easy solution. First, set the speech rate as you like. Now do the >> 2 finger clockwise or counter clockwise until you land on Vertical >> Navigation. End of problem. The Vertical Navigation will not cause any >> unexpected issues. I suggest you play with the Voiceover rotor and >> familiarize yourself with it. I use it quite often and always set it back on >> Vertical Navigation when I am done. >> >> From E.T.'s Keyboard... >> "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution >> inevitable." >> -John F. Kennedy >> My e-Mail: >> [email protected] >> *-* *-* *-* *-* >> >> On 2/15/2026 5:08 AM, meikle.aiden via MacVisionaries wrote: >>> Hi Matthew. >>> >>> Thanks for your welcomed message. >>> >>> It makes sense to get the professionals to consider the problems I'm >>> having, perhaps the RNIB's digital >>> Skills team can arrange for me to visit their Glasgow office with my >>> phone. Someone would really need eyes on, as I'm total and not too >>> proficient with my phone and not reliable to convey my problem over a >>> telephone line. >>> >>> Incidentally , while typing in my passcode this morning, Voice-over uttered >>> "speech rate 100%, so I did a single finger flick down until it arrived at >>> 70%. Perhaps at least I'll be able to understand what my phone is saying. >>> >>> Thankyou for your help and advice. >>> >>> Very best wishes, >>> >>> Andy Logue. >>> >>> " >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [email protected] >>> <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Matthew Horspool >>> Sent: 14 February 2026 15:05 >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: RE: Slowing speach down on Iphone 16e >>> >>> Hi Andy, >>> Sorry to hear you're having so much trouble. >>> We can try to help you on this list, but I think you might benefit from >>> some 1:1 assistance, e.g. on the phone or on Zoom or Teams. >>> Could you try calling the RNIB Helpline on: 0303 123 9999? When you get put >>> through to the advisor, ask for the Digital Skills team. They should be >>> able to talk you through it, or arrange a callback from a volunteer who >>> will be able to work with you to get this sorted out. >>> You could also try AbilityNet on: 0300 180 0028. Ask for a technology >>> volunteer. >>> I am suggesting this because if this is happening to you before you can >>> even get passed the passcode screen, you are going to struggle to get into >>> Settings to disable the feature which is probably causing the problem in >>> the first place. >>> HTH, >>> Matthew >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: meikle.aiden via MacVisionaries >>> <[email protected]> >>> Sent: 13 February 2026 19:10 >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: RE: Slowing speach down on Iphone 16e >>> >>> Hi E.T. >>> >>> Very good question my friend so here is my answer. >>> >>> I purchased my new Iphone from the Apple Store, Buchanan Street store in >>> Glasgow. >>> >>> As I live a bit out in the sticks and outwith the visually impaired >>> community, and with no immediately visually impaired friends to help me >>> out with technical knowledge/ skills to set up my new phone, I requested >>> assistance from the Apple Stors "Genius" section. >>> >>> The volunteer who set up my phone failed to set Seri up properly as when I >>> returned home my new phone told me that Apple Pay and Seri have not fully >>> been set up. >>> >>> That was about 6 months ago and I still cannot secure help to sort out >>> this problem and I'm still struggling on my own >>> >>> Any friends I meet in my local bar don't know anything about Seri or >>> indeed voice over and although I may be able to get technical support >>> in Glasgow, it's about 80 miles away and I'm currently waiting for a >>> replacement Guidedog, So It's increditably difficult to get a grips >>> as to what exactly is wrong with my phone and how to resolve this >>> issue >>> >>> When I open my iphone , I try to engage the passcode by running a single >>> finger up from the bottom of the screen, but before I can start to achieve >>> this, for no reason at all voice over says something like 40%. If I Arrow >>> right voice over will say 50%, then 60% and if I do a left fflick , the % >>> number will come down. >>> >>> I'm almost afraid to lift my phone up from a table or even touch it >>> because, it's saying all sorts of things on it's own and I'm afraid of >>> accidentally making significant changes. >>> >>> Does this mean anything at all to anyone as it's doing my nut in and I >>> simply don't know what to do now. >>> >>> Very best wishes. >>> >>> Andy Logue. >>> >>> This message is written with Outlook on a Win11 laptop >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries <[email protected]> >>> Sent: 13 February 2026 18:30 >>> To: [email protected]; Herbie Allen >>> <[email protected]> >>> Subject: Re: Slowing speach down on Iphone 16e >>> >>> Begs the question. In the first place, why would the speech rate >>> change at all. What would cause that. That does not happen to me in all the >>> years O have been using iPhones. >>> >>> >>> From E.T.'s Keyboard... >>> "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution >>> inevitable." >>> -John F. Kennedy >>> My e-Mail: >>> [email protected] >>> *-* *-* *-* *-* >>> >>> On 2/13/2026 10:03 AM, Herbie Allen wrote: >>>> But the advantage of Quick Settings is you can have things in there >>>> that you don’t want to trigger with the Roter which is why I made >>>> that suggestion so they wouldn’t be fighting with the rate changing >>>> all the time. >>>> >>>>> On Feb 13, 2026, at 12:02, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries >>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I do not bother with quick settings. I find using the Voiceover >>>>> rotor on the iPhone more than sufficient. All the standard options >>>>> are available on the rotor. >>>>> >>>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard... >>>>> "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent >>>>> revolution inevitable." >>>>> -John F. Kennedy >>>>> My e-Mail: >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> *-* *-* *-* *-* >>>>> >>>>> On 2/13/2026 8:16 AM, meikle.aiden via MacVisionaries wrote: >>>>>> Hi again Herbie and others. Well, I’ve been flicking around >>>>>> settings all morning looking for anything that sounds like quick >>>>>> Roughter, so that I can change the part that is speading up my >>>>>> voice-over rate. >>>>>> >>>>>> I’m afraid you guys have left me way, way behind and I’ll never >>>>>> begin to understand your instructions. >>>>>> >>>>>> When I touch my Iphone screen , voice-over may say 20%, then 30% >>>>>> and so on until I flick the other way and it then may say 50%, 40% >>>>>> 30% etc. >>>>>> >>>>>> I’ve no intention of changing my voice-over rate, why should I need to. >>>>>> >>>>>> All I’m wanting to do is arrow right through my settings or back up >>>>>> through them to check my battery level, but the rate of my speech >>>>>> simply increases until I cannot understand what voice-over is >>>>>> saying any longer. >>>>>> >>>>>> I can get into settings, so from there, where do I go to get into >>>>>> the Roughter settings please? >>>>>> >>>>>> Very best wishes. >>>>>> >>>>>> Andy Logue. >>>>>> >>>>>> Su >>>>>> >>>>>> Is t >>>>>> >>>>>> *From:*[email protected] >>>>>> <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Herbie Allen >>>>>> *Sent:* 13 February 2026 14:00 >>>>>> *To:* [email protected] >>>>>> *Subject:* Re: Slowing speach down on Iphone 16e >>>>>> >>>>>> Yes, if you go into the VoiceOver Settings, and adjust the options >>>>>> for the quick roter, you can move Rate so it’s the first option. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Feb 13, 2026, at 06:42, Tom Rash <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Good idea. Is there a way to get to the speech rate in a hurry >>>>>> while in that setting? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Feb 12, 2026, at 1:02 PM, Herbie Allen >>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Yes, but I would go further. I would take it out of the roter >>>>>> completely if it’s not something you’re interested in >>>>>> changing. Make sure it’s in the VO Quick Settings so you can >>>>>> still get to it if needed. You can bring those up with a two >>>>>> finger Quadrupal tap. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Feb 12, 2026, at 14:59, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries >>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> See if the rotor is set on Speech rate. Suggest you >>>>>> set >>>>>> it to something like Vertical Navigation to avoid such >>>>>> unwanted changes. >>>>>> >>>>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard... >>>>>> "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make >>>>>> violent revolution inevitable." >>>>>> -John F. Kennedy >>>>>> My e-Mail: >>>>>> [email protected]<mailto:[email protected] >>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> >>>>>> *-* *-* *-* *-* >>>>>> >>>>>> On 2/12/2026 12:04 PM, meikle.aiden via MacVisionaries wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi Herby. >>>>>> >>>>>> No keyboard. When I say Keystroke, I mean is there a >>>>>> finger swipe or tap to engage the speech settings. >>>>>> >>>>>> Best wishes. >>>>>> >>>>>> Andy. >>>>>> >>>>>> *From:*[email protected] >>>>>> <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of >>>>>> *[email protected] >>>>>> *Sent:* 12 February 2026 17:17 >>>>>> *To:*[email protected] >>>>>> *Subject:* RE: Slowing speach down on Iphone 16e >>>>>> >>>>>> You mentioned key stroke, are you using a keyboard? >>>>>> >>>>>> *From:*meikle.aiden via MacVisionaries >>>>>> <[email protected]> >>>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, February 12, 2026 10:43 >>>>>> *To:*[email protected] >>>>>> *Subject:* Slowing speach down on Iphone 16e >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi guys. >>>>>> >>>>>> Frequently when using my Iphone the speech starts >>>>>> going up in increments, until I can hardly understand >>>>>> what Voice-over is saying. >>>>>> >>>>>> Can anyone tell me the keystroke required to slow it >>>>>> down and if possible, loch the speech rate at a >>>>>> comfortable level? >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks guys. >>>>>> >>>>>> Andy. >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> The following information is important for all >>>>>> members >>>>>> of the Mac Visionaries list. >>>>>> >>>>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the >>>>>> running of this list, or if you feel that a member's >>>>>> post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >>>>>> moderators directly rather than posting on the list >>>>>> itself. >>>>>> >>>>>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. >>>>>> You can reach mark at:[email protected] your owner >>>>>> is Cara Quinn - 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