You are right, this scripting is powerful and I look forward to learning how far we can go to script VO with Applescript. The combination of Terminal and scripting is also a powerful tool worth learning. Vic, you are right, the bash shell for Unix is like DOS but a whole lot cooler. Just type "help" to get started learning it. One thing I also love about it over DOS is the filename completion feature and how well it all works with VO. I do have a couple of questions about VO I have on my list though that I have just not been able to find an answer about. Maybe some of you experts could provide the scoop on these:
1. Is there a way to make VO quit saying "New Line" when using the Read All function to read a document. I tried turning down the punctuation verbosity which is one place it might have been, but it makes no difference. I just want to read a document for contents many times and can usually tell from the context where here are separations in the text. 2. Also, along the same lines, I would love to be notified about data detector present with just a nice click and not the verbal announcement. Can that wording be turned off without actually turning off the feature in the editor? 3. When you are using Read All to, say, read an email message, is there a way to skip sections and continue to be in the Read All mode? In other words, say someone answers a message and you are reading it with Read All then the header for the original message appears at the end. Many times, one would like to read the original message without all the details of when and where it was sent, and I love the fact that you can just hit down arrow quickly a few times to skip past it, but It would really be neat if VO reacted to navigation keys in Read All mode by acting on the navigation key and continuing the Reading. On May 9, 2010, at 7:56 AM, Scott Howell wrote: > Yep, this is the most efficient way I would agree, but for those folks who > are not familiar with Unix commands or would not be comfortable in Terminal, > the Automator process offers a solution. I personally find the Terminal > easier, but I'm still curious what I can do with the scripts as well. I'm > wondering how complex an operation can be using a script. Just feel like the > envelope needs to be stretched. :) > On May 9, 2010, at 6:59 AM, Larry Skutchan wrote: > >> Vic, here is a quick and more powerful way to move files and folders. >> Go to the terminal application and learn the file and folder layout there. >> You can use the mv command to do what you need in a very powerful way indeed. >> On May 9, 2010, at 6:38 AM, Scott Howell wrote: >> >>> Hi Anne, >>> >>> Thanks for the info. I have been meaning to try Automator out for a while, >>> but just never seem to quite get to it. I followed the instructions and >>> although it worked, I continue to get some critical error that seems to not >>> affect the operation for the most part. I think I need to understand what >>> is going on on the backend and that will make this much easier. In other >>> words, if I learn the scripting that goes on behind the scenes, I will be >>> able to understand what automator is doing. However, very cool and just >>> looking at what is available in the automator, it is very powerful and now >>> I have the push I needed to find time to study this. >>> >>> THanks, >>> On May 9, 2010, at 4:31 AM, Anne Robertson wrote: >>> >>>> Hello Vic, >>>> >>>> Here's an Automator work flow to do what you want. It was posted by Yuma >>>> Antoine Decaux a little while ago. >>>> >>>> >>>> 1- Open Automator >>>> 2-It will ask you to choose from a template. Right arrow until you find >>>> services, then press return. >>>> 3-at this stage, VO should say name. VO right arrow until you are on the >>>> actions description split view. interact with it >>>> 4-you should be now in action library view. interact with it. Its an >>>> expandable element. go down to files and folders. >>>> 5-VO right arrow till you get to the actions, and choose down the list to >>>> move finder items. Note:at this stage, things might seem a bit sluggish, >>>> but it will go away, and only happens once every 3rd session. >>>> 6-press return. you should now have created an action to define, and VO >>>> should say move finder items. Interact with it >>>> 7-VO left until VO says text in service action selected any application >>>> replaces selected text. This is a group you interact with, in which there >>>> are static texts and pressable dropbox menus. >>>> 8-VO to text, VO space bar and choose files and folders in the list. Then >>>> VO right to any applications, VO space bar again and choose finder in the >>>> list of choices. >>>> 9-stop interacting with the group, VO right to move finder items, and >>>> interact with that. >>>> 10-go right until you find the options check box. check it. >>>> -11-VO right to show this action when the workflow runs. >>>> 13-save the file with command S, call the service whatever you want. >>>> >>>> You will now have a service for moving files and folders in your >>>> contextual menu VO shift M, or control mouse click. >>>> >>>> If you want something faster than a contextual menu, you can bind the >>>> automator service to a keypress. >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> >>>> Anne >>>> >>>> On May 9, 2010, at 10:09 AM, Tinker Tweak wrote: >>>> >>>>> I'm really thunderstruck and I don't know what to say. How does one do >>>>> without this basic function of computing then?I think I don't like the >>>>> derection this is headed but I am here now so what would be my options >>>>> towards getting my work done in an efficient manner? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Again, thanks for any help. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Vic >>>>> >>>>> _____ >>>>> >>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sarah Alawami >>>>> Sent: Sunday, May 09, 2010 3:53 AM >>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>> Subject: Re: files and folders >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> .sadly you cannot cut and paste. I don't like it but that's just the way >>>>> it >>>>> is. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> take care. >>>>> >>>>> On May 9, 2010, at 12:26 AM, Tinker Tweak wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> First I tried command-x only to realize that it is dimmed out on the edit >>>>> menu. Command-c and command-v works though but without the command-x, I >>>>> have >>>>> to go back to the folder where I coppied the files to delete all the >>>>> files I >>>>> just copied to the other folder. It is taking so much time cause it is >>>>> acctually copying the files instead of just changing the point of >>>>> reference >>>>> as command-x then command-c will do. Is there a setting I am missing? Why >>>>> is >>>>> my edit menu having this dimmed item? It is tedious to be going back and >>>>> forth folders first to select then copy, go to another folder and paste, >>>>> then go back to the source files and delete but right now, that is the >>>>> only >>>>> way I know And there is very little I do know cause it is all new to me. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The second that I tried is to learn or at least try my skills at drag and >>>>> drop but I haven't gotten the hang of it yet so far. What am I doing >>>>> wrong? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Thanks. >>>>> >>>>> _____ >>>>> >>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf OfRob Lambert >>>>> Sent: Sunday, May 09, 2010 2:57 AM >>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>> Subject: Re: files and folders >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> What methods have you tried thus far? >>>>> >>>>> On Sat, May 8, 2010 at 11:44 PM, Tinker Tweak <tinkertw...@gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi All! >>>>> >>>>> I'm a new Apple switcher and I like it very much. Its just been a week >>>>> since >>>>> I got a new Macbook pro and I've been learning fairly quickly if I may say >>>>> so myself. I love challenges and this thing about learning the operating >>>>> system plus its screen reader surely qualifies for one big challenge >>>>> indeed. >>>>> So far I've been doing very well until I ran into a problem with cutting >>>>> and >>>>> pasting with in the Finder. I can't make it to work no matter how I try. >>>>> I >>>>> have to learn how to do this cause my work involves moving lots and lots >>>>> of >>>>> files and folders all day. 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