Esther, Wow! That is way cool! I doubt if you're nearly as old as I am but that behavior of the terminal reminds me of Norton Utility for dos command interpreter power shell NDOS.
I made an alias for the terminal and put it on my desktop. I forgot the better and easier way of putting things on the dock and will do that instead. Thanks. This switch to an entirely different computing world is really disconcerting me. I'm sure I'll adjust eventually. Anyway I'm currently researching my problem with cut and paste and I just found out that it is a very heated topic on much of the forum out there, endless threads of the nasty thing. I didn't know this until now. Just recently coming on board on the Mac world I was clueless to this. <grin!> "To be or not to be." "To cut or not to cut." Really ridiculous feud over all. Myself I'd be thankful for whatever tool I'm given. Thanks to you all! Vic -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Esther Sent: Sunday, May 09, 2010 8:17 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: files and folders Hi Vic, I usually keep the terminal application as one of the apps in my dock, or your can launch it from Finder by using Command-Shift-U (the shortcut for the Utilities folder), then pressing "T" (to go to terminal), followed by Command-Down Arrow (to launch). The default Unix shell you're using supports tab completion of path and filenames. This means that you don't have to type out long file names or paths in full -- you only need to type as much of the file or folder name to uniquely specify the file or folder, and then press the tab key. Let's say that under your home directory you have a folder called "Documents" and another named "Downloads". You want to move to the Documents folder to examine some files by using the "cd" command in terminal to change your directory. On the command line in terminal, you only need to type "cd" (without quotes) followed by a space followed and then type the first few letters of the folder "D o c" and then press the tab key. When you press tab, the rest of the folder name will be supplied by the shell, and you only need to press the "Return" key to execute the command. If you had just typed "D o" and pressed tab, you would have been informed of the two folders that matched your entry, "Downloads" and "Documents", and then you would be presented with the command you had typed. You could then type the "c" and press tab (to successfully complete the command) and press "Return" to execute it. Similarly, if I want to navigate to a file within some subfolders, I would just type the parts of my folders needed to uniquely identify the subfolders, and press tab to let the system complete the name. Each time I needed to move to a sub-folder, I would type a slash for the separator, then type a few letters of the start of the subdirectory name, then press tab, then continue until the full file path was laid out, at which point I would just press the "Return" key. For example, let's say I wanted to examine files within a folder under my home account named "Documents/Letters/March" and change to this directory in the terminal with the command: cd Documents/Letters/March I'd actually only type the initial "cd" command, a space, and then "D o c" before pressing the tab key to let the system fill in "Documents". Then I would type a slash symbol separator and the letter "L" (if there were no other sub-folders beginning with that letter), and press the tab key again to let the shell complete the path to now read "Documents/Letters". For the last subfolder I would type a slash symbol again, and the letters "M a r" and press tab. (This assumes that I also have a subfolder named "May" that needs to be distinguished from "March"). When the path is complete, I just press "Return" to execute the command to change directory to "Documents/Letters/March". I've only typed the letters "D o c", "L", and "M a r" out of the entire path. Another thing you can do is use Finder to locate the sub-folder "March", and copy the entry with Command-C. Then when you switch to Terminal, you type "cd" with a space, and then paste with Command-V, and press "Return". The pasted entry will be the full path name. You can copy and paste the paths to files and/or folders from Finder to Terminal. So you could also do this for the "mv" command, if you wanted to move a specific file to the folder, "Documents/Letters/ March". When you do this the pasted path is the full path name (e.g. "/Users/<your account>/Documents/Letters/March"). HTH. For more information about using the command line in terminal, check out the Take Control book, "Take Control of the Mac Command Line with Terminal" ($10.00 list price) by Joe Kissell which is available as a downloadable PDF file from the Take Control Web site at: http://www.takecontrolbooks.com/command-line The web page describes the book's contents and links a sample excerpt. Cheers, Esther Tinker Tweak wrote: > Larry, > > Yes! I just saw the terminal application just tonight. I have the > feeling > that that is something like a command line with a GUI interface. I > think > I'll thrive in it cause I used to be so very comfortable in DOS. Now > I have > to learn the syntax for this OS. Typeing long path and file names > will be > interesting though. Were I 20 years younger, I'd just teach myself > programming in this platform but now programming was a life lived > and not a > life I'd want to have again.Awe, that old life with ASAP and Pascal > > Thank you and so good to have met you here. > Vic > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Larry Skutchan > Sent: Sunday, May 09, 2010 7:00 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: files and folders > > Vic, here is a quick and more powerful way to move files and folders. > Go to the terminal application and learn the file and folder layout > there. > You can use the mv command to do what you need in a very powerful way > indeed. > On May 9, 2010, at 6:38 AM, Scott Howell wrote: > >> Hi Anne, >> >> Thanks for the info. I have been meaning to try Automator out for a >> while, > but just never seem to quite get to it. I followed the instructions > and > although it worked, I continue to get some critical error that seems > to not > affect the operation for the most part. I think I need to understand > what is > going on on the backend and that will make this much easier. In > other words, > if I learn the scripting that goes on behind the scenes, I will be > able to > understand what automator is doing. However, very cool and just > looking at > what is available in the automator, it is very powerful and now I > have the > push I needed to find time to study this. >> >> THanks, >> On May 9, 2010, at 4:31 AM, Anne Robertson wrote: >> >>> Hello Vic, >>> >>> Here's an Automator work flow to do what you want. It was posted >>> by Yuma > Antoine Decaux a little while ago. >>> >>> >>> 1- Open Automator >>> 2-It will ask you to choose from a template. Right arrow until you >>> find > services, then press return. >>> 3-at this stage, VO should say name. VO right arrow until you are >>> on the > actions description split view. interact with it >>> 4-you should be now in action library view. interact with it. Its an > expandable element. go down to files and folders. >>> 5-VO right arrow till you get to the actions, and choose down the >>> list to > move finder items. Note:at this stage, things might seem a bit > sluggish, but > it will go away, and only happens once every 3rd session. >>> 6-press return. you should now have created an action to define, >>> and VO > should say move finder items. Interact with it >>> 7-VO left until VO says text in service action selected any >>> application > replaces selected text. This is a group you interact with, in which > there > are static texts and pressable dropbox menus. >>> 8-VO to text, VO space bar and choose files and folders in the >>> list. Then > VO right to any applications, VO space bar again and choose finder > in the > list of choices. >>> 9-stop interacting with the group, VO right to move finder items, >>> and > interact with that. >>> 10-go right until you find the options check box. check it. >>> -11-VO right to show this action when the workflow runs. >>> 13-save the file with command S, call the service whatever you want. >>> >>> You will now have a service for moving files and folders in your > contextual menu VO shift M, or control mouse click. >>> >>> If you want something faster than a contextual menu, you can bind >>> the > automator service to a keypress. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Anne >>> >>> On May 9, 2010, at 10:09 AM, Tinker Tweak wrote: >>> >>>> I'm really thunderstruck and I don't know what to say. How does >>>> one do >>>> without this basic function of computing then?I think I don't >>>> like the >>>> derection this is headed but I am here now so what would be my >>>> options >>>> towards getting my work done in an efficient manner? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Again, thanks for any help. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Vic >>>> >>>> _____ >>>> >>>> From: [email protected] >>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Sarah Alawami >>>> Sent: Sunday, May 09, 2010 3:53 AM >>>> To: [email protected] >>>> Subject: Re: files and folders >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> .sadly you cannot cut and paste. I don't like it but that's just >>>> the way > it >>>> is. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> take care. >>>> >>>> On May 9, 2010, at 12:26 AM, Tinker Tweak wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> First I tried command-x only to realize that it is dimmed out on >>>> the > edit >>>> menu. Command-c and command-v works though but without the >>>> command-x, I > have >>>> to go back to the folder where I coppied the files to delete all >>>> the > files I >>>> just copied to the other folder. It is taking so much time cause >>>> it is >>>> acctually copying the files instead of just changing the point of > reference >>>> as command-x then command-c will do. Is there a setting I am >>>> missing? > Why is >>>> my edit menu having this dimmed item? It is tedious to be going >>>> back and >>>> forth folders first to select then copy, go to another folder and > paste, >>>> then go back to the source files and delete but right now, that >>>> is the > only >>>> way I know And there is very little I do know cause it is all new >>>> to me. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> The second that I tried is to learn or at least try my skills at >>>> drag > and >>>> drop but I haven't gotten the hang of it yet so far. What am I >>>> doing > wrong? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Thanks. >>>> >>>> _____ >>>> >>>> From: [email protected] >>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf OfRob Lambert >>>> Sent: Sunday, May 09, 2010 2:57 AM >>>> To: [email protected] >>>> Subject: Re: files and folders >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> What methods have you tried thus far? >>>> >>>> On Sat, May 8, 2010 at 11:44 PM, Tinker Tweak <[email protected] >>>> > > wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi All! >>>> >>>> I'm a new Apple switcher and I like it very much. Its just been a >>>> week > since >>>> I got a new Macbook pro and I've been learning fairly quickly if >>>> I may > say >>>> so myself. I love challenges and this thing about learning the >>>> operating >>>> system plus its screen reader surely qualifies for one big >>>> challenge > indeed. >>>> So far I've been doing very well until I ran into a problem with >>>> cutting > and >>>> pasting with in the Finder. I can't make it to work no matter >>>> how I > try. I >>>> have to learn how to do this cause my work involves moving lots >>>> and > lots of >>>> files and folders all day. I'd truly appreciate it if someone can >>>> help > me >>>> learn how to move files and folders. >>>> >>>> Thanks in advance. >>>> >>>> Vic >>>> >>>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
