And exactly how can you be so sure that he didn't have to use software that was only available for windows or that was inaccessible on a mac? Also, I think you need to take note of the fact that whilst door and daw sound completely the same, they mean completely different things.
On 18/05/2010, Karen Lewellen <[email protected]> wrote: > Again, and I do this not to pick on you, but to I hope encourage you to > own your personal choices, without projecting on to anyone else. > what you mean I think is that for you personally these things are > important. > An academic institution wants you to get the job done, and that job is > going to vary from institution to institution. > Radio schools, good ones at least, still teach you how to edit the old > fashioned way, there is a reason for this, I will mention in a second. > I can also think of two or 3 universities in major markets with classes > that teach pro tools 5, because it gives you the fundamentals of the > program without > some of the bugs in say 6. So if you were required to teach a course in > pro tools and needed to use speech, it could certainly be done. > As for the demands of a commercial studio. I suppose you mean the ones you > wish to personally work with? > Both Michael Bubble's last album, "crazy love" that sat at the top of the > charts last fall for weeks, and Kiss' last album were recorded in very > commercial studios with 24 track analog technology. no gui required. > I have a friend rather highly positioned in the kiss army, you want to tell > Gene > Simmons that what some see as legacy technology has no use? > many popular artists are returning to the rich sound of analog, because > they are tired of canned or for many what is canned digital sound. a well > rounded professional can give a studio both, or so I personally feel. > > > It may not be true for you, and that is terrific, but speak for your own > personal > needs, not others. > It is a serious problem when this is not done, it suggests to anyone who > is not using your machine, the entire computing population, that your tools > are the best tools for them and this may not be the case at all. > It can hurt over all access as well, because the uninformed think that if > a site works with JFW, it is accessible, when a single product should never > be the measure of workability. > > There is nothing stuffy about saying, this will open professional doors > for me personally. Nor would it have been a waste of time to stay with a > mac in college. That you chose differently is terrific, just say its your > choice, not that someone is making you do this. > Karen > > On Tue, 18 May 2010, Cameron wrote: > >> Hi. Okay, perhaps I should clarify my statement. By "us", I meant those >> who need to work with current OS X only DAW platforms, like what you'd >> find >> in commercial studios, or, what an academic institution would expect you >> to >> use for teaching purposes etc. where the legacy operating system is not >> an >> option anymore. >> >> Yes, if what you use works for you; meets your needs etc, then to you >> personally, it's not out dated. >> >> Cameron. >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] >> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Karen Lewellen >> Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2010 12:30 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: an Imac and voiceover? >> >> this is a fun topic. >> I invite you to think about computers slightly differently, say like a >> mode of transportation. >> There are some who do not feel their needs are met unless they are zipping >> along on the super highway with the most recent off the showroom floor. >> There are others, who will pay thousands of dollars to drive say a vintage >> roles Royce. That vintage machine cost more because of its value to that >> individual, but its worth it to them, because it gets the job done as >> they define it. >> I tend to base all of my computer use, I dare say my technology use in >> general, on getting the job done consistently >> with few issues. Indeed I chose to maintain older mac structures since it >> was what I required to get the job done at a desired level, meaning I >> could provide my various audiences with quality storytelling. >> Therefore to me, there is nothing outdated about this technology, no >> more than say the above mentioned Roles. >> However, this is me, and what I define as tool need not be the same for >> you. I raised eyebrows at Cameron's" open doors for us," >> idea because this suggest that everyone here uses technology just the >> same, that they experience things as a one size fits all fashion, and for >> the same reasons. Our very discussion illustrates this is not true, and >> frankly I respect you too much as an individual, respect everyone too >> much to deny them their unique needs and tastes by thinking you have to >> do things the way I do them, smiles. To you, my setup is outdated >> technology. >> For me it is the right tool, and will continue to be the right tool, until >> it can no longer allow me to do my craft. >> as for how apple has met the needs of professionals like me, I invite you >> to >> review the history of apple's screen reading efforts and say the windows >> screen reading history to compare. >> I think that speaks for itself. >> Thanks for the exchange, >> Karen >> >> On Tue, 18 May 2010, Ben Mustill-Rose >> wrote: >> >>> You said: >>> now now, technology is only doorstop material when it no longer serves >>> its function. >>> I agree with this and own several older macs myself. However, people >>> (Not you poticually, just people in general) should be realistic about >>> what there hardware can and can not do. >>> pt has been accessible for years, so I do not understand this door >> concept. >>> Yes, it is accessible if you choos to stick with an older version, >>> running on old hardware with outdated assistive technology. >>> I have made a lot of radio and money with my use of pro tools with >>> outspoken, so have others. If this were not true apple would not >>> invest in reaching these professionals. >>> Perhaps I'm missing something, but what has apple done at all to reach >>> professionals like yourself? Surely if they have done anything, you >>> wouldn't have to be using the hardware and software that you do? >>> >>> On 18/05/2010, Dan Eickmeier <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> , I've got an intel iMac which I got in 2007, and it's working just >>>> fine. >>>> But if your iMac you have is a power PC one, such as a g3, or g4, you're >> not >>>> going to be able to. THe latest OS that you'll be able to, would be >> Tiger. >>>> On May 17, 2010, at 6:33 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote: >>>> >>>>> anyone running a voiceover solid os x edition on an imac? >>>>> will send the data specifics if that Will help. >>>>> thanks, >>>>> Karen >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups >>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>> [email protected]. >>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> [email protected]. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>> >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]. >>> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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