Hi. yes, some studios are using, or have gone back to using, analog tape,
which I totally dig, don't get me wrong. However, this is usually reserved
for clients who can pony up the cash. (For example, it's standard fare to
charge between $150 and $250 per reel.) as far as studios I've researched
and people I've talked to, most clients opt for a DAW based option due to
the lower cost.
Yes, some schools and studios use an older version of pt. however, as far
as the two institutions I attended, the machines in their studios were not
able to run OS 9 so that was not an option.
And as far as college goes, I had no money to purchase a mac laptop at the
time. The state assisted me with technology. However, they would not play
ball with the mac option. so, it was take what they offered, or go without.
Hopefully this will change for future students receiving support.
Also, the networks at the two colleges I attended were all windows territory
so I figured I might as well play ball.
Cameron.
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[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Karen Lewellen
Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2010 4:38 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: an Imac and voiceover?
Again, and I do this not to pick on you, but to I hope encourage you to
own your personal choices, without projecting on to anyone else.
what you mean I think is that for you personally these things are
important.
An academic institution wants you to get the job done, and that job is
going to vary from institution to institution.
Radio schools, good ones at least, still teach you how to edit the old
fashioned way, there is a reason for this, I will mention in a second.
I can also think of two or 3 universities in major markets with classes
that teach pro tools 5, because it gives you the fundamentals of the
program without
some of the bugs in say 6. So if you were required to teach a course in
pro tools and needed to use speech, it could certainly be done.
As for the demands of a commercial studio. I suppose you mean the ones you
wish to personally work with?
Both Michael Bubble's last album, "crazy love" that sat at the top of the
charts last fall for weeks, and Kiss' last album were recorded in very
commercial studios with 24 track analog technology. no gui required.
I have a friend rather highly positioned in the kiss army, you want to tell
Gene
Simmons that what some see as legacy technology has no use?
many popular artists are returning to the rich sound of analog, because
they are tired of canned or for many what is canned digital sound. a well
rounded professional can give a studio both, or so I personally feel.
It may not be true for you, and that is terrific, but speak for your own
personal
needs, not others.
It is a serious problem when this is not done, it suggests to anyone who
is not using your machine, the entire computing population, that your tools
are the best tools for them and this may not be the case at all.
It can hurt over all access as well, because the uninformed think that if
a site works with JFW, it is accessible, when a single product should never
be the measure of workability.
There is nothing stuffy about saying, this will open professional doors
for me personally. Nor would it have been a waste of time to stay with a
mac in college. That you chose differently is terrific, just say its your
choice, not that someone is making you do this.
Karen
On Tue, 18 May 2010, Cameron wrote:
Hi. Okay, perhaps I should clarify my statement. By "us", I meant those
who need to work with current OS X only DAW platforms, like what you'd
find
in commercial studios, or, what an academic institution would expect you
to
use for teaching purposes etc. where the legacy operating system is not
an
option anymore.
Yes, if what you use works for you; meets your needs etc, then to you
personally, it's not out dated.
Cameron.
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From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Karen Lewellen
Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2010 12:30 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: an Imac and voiceover?
this is a fun topic.
I invite you to think about computers slightly differently, say like a
mode of transportation.
There are some who do not feel their needs are met unless they are zipping
along on the super highway with the most recent off the showroom floor.
There are others, who will pay thousands of dollars to drive say a vintage
roles Royce. That vintage machine cost more because of its value to that
individual, but its worth it to them, because it gets the job done as
they define it.
I tend to base all of my computer use, I dare say my technology use in
general, on getting the job done consistently
with few issues. Indeed I chose to maintain older mac structures since it
was what I required to get the job done at a desired level, meaning I
could provide my various audiences with quality storytelling.
Therefore to me, there is nothing outdated about this technology, no
more than say the above mentioned Roles.
However, this is me, and what I define as tool need not be the same for
you. I raised eyebrows at Cameron's" open doors for us,"
idea because this suggest that everyone here uses technology just the
same, that they experience things as a one size fits all fashion, and for
the same reasons. Our very discussion illustrates this is not true, and
frankly I respect you too much as an individual, respect everyone too
much to deny them their unique needs and tastes by thinking you have to
do things the way I do them, smiles. To you, my setup is outdated
technology.
For me it is the right tool, and will continue to be the right tool, until
it can no longer allow me to do my craft.
as for how apple has met the needs of professionals like me, I invite you
to
review the history of apple's screen reading efforts and say the windows
screen reading history to compare.
I think that speaks for itself.
Thanks for the exchange,
Karen
On Tue, 18 May 2010, Ben Mustill-Rose
wrote:
You said:
now now, technology is only doorstop material when it no longer serves
its function.
I agree with this and own several older macs myself. However, people
(Not you poticually, just people in general) should be realistic about
what there hardware can and can not do.
pt has been accessible for years, so I do not understand this door
concept.
Yes, it is accessible if you choos to stick with an older version,
running on old hardware with outdated assistive technology.
I have made a lot of radio and money with my use of pro tools with
outspoken, so have others. If this were not true apple would not
invest in reaching these professionals.
Perhaps I'm missing something, but what has apple done at all to reach
professionals like yourself? Surely if they have done anything, you
wouldn't have to be using the hardware and software that you do?
On 18/05/2010, Dan Eickmeier <[email protected]> wrote:
, I've got an intel iMac which I got in 2007, and it's working just
fine.
But if your iMac you have is a power PC one, such as a g3, or g4, you're
not
going to be able to. THe latest OS that you'll be able to, would be
Tiger.
On May 17, 2010, at 6:33 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote:
anyone running a voiceover solid os x edition on an imac?
will send the data specifics if that Will help.
thanks,
Karen
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