A few other comments here, I agree that the drm issue is more of a fault of the DRM itself, not the mac. I too boycott anything with DRM when I can. Most of the time, flash content is not labeled, so even the windows screen readers will just say button, button, button, etc. And if that's all they're going to say, I would rather it not say anything since there's no label. On Aug 7, 2010, at 8:53 AM, erik burggraaf wrote:
> Hi, see my comments below. > > Erik Burggraaf > Check out my first ever podcast tutorial, Learn braille using the braille box. > Visit http://www.erik-burggraaf.com and click podcasts to read more and > subscribe. > > On 2010-08-07, at 1:48 AM, Rajiv Shah wrote: >> . These are: >> * DRM streaming: Some DRM video streaming is still only limited to Windows. >> Quite frustrating when you are hoping for a speedy conversion to the Mac. > > This is a fault of digital rights management schemes in general. The point > of DRM after all is to limit the use of the content. As such, the more > people who have the keys to the kingdom, the less limiting it is and the more > chance of unauthorized use. I'm sorry man, but that's just the way it is, > and when you're talking about this stuff, it works the other way around. IE, > you could just as easily have been a mac user all your life, switched to > windows, and then found out to your horror that "Oh sh*t. My DRM isn't > supported on this platform." That is one reason among many that I have been > a boycotter of such things since I first got my computer more than 10 years > ago now. >> * Lack of VoiceOver accessibility support. VoiceOver as far as I can tell, >> does not support the onMouseover event handler. Maybe you folks have a >> solution for this? > Well, no promises, but if you want to give us an example website to work on, > there are a lot of really smart and experienced mac users here and we'll do > what we can to get you up and running. > >> * Flash support: As far as I know, VoiceOver still does not support Flash >> How many years have we had support in Windows. Eight, perhaps? How do folks >> who have made the near complete Windows-to-Mac transition work around this >> short of switching to Windows? > Flash support for windows? We have? Hum, yes I've read something about > that, but to be honest, I teach jaws and window-eyes on all windows > platforms, and I have yet to see really elegant flash support in either high > end package. And at that, if the developer of your website flash content > decides to ignore the accessibility features that are available in flash then > your viewing experience will be poor on any platform. Unfortunately for us, > apple has decided that adobe products are redundant and adobe has decided > against building apple accessibility support. Fortunately for us, HTML 5 > will hopefully emerge and put adobe out of the active web content business. > It's just a waiting game at this point. but again, if you want to post a > specific example of the content you're trying to use, some one might know of > or be able to find a workaround. Flash isn't hopeless on the mac, only the > people who design and develop on it are. > >> Happy for folks' perspectives. >> > Yeh, sorry I couldn't be more immediate help. > >> Thanks. Rajiv >> >> ---- Original message ---- >>> Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2010 15:33:52 +0200 >>> From: Michael Busboom <[email protected]> >>> Subject: Re: Reopen office >>> To: [email protected] >>> >>> Hello Rajiv, >>> >>> I partially share your sentiments. I am ecstatic about my Mac, love a lot >>> of its functionality but find myself wishing that I had more word >>> processing options that worked well with VoiceOver. If I discover a word >>> processing app that works well on the Mac with VO and gives me the same >>> level of accessibility that I have with Window-Eyes and MS Office, I will >>> let you know. >>> >>> All of that having been said, I love my Mac, and find myself using Windows >>> less and less. >>> >>> Take care, >>> >>> Mike >>> >>> On 4,Aug,2010, at 2:57 AM, Rajiv Shah wrote: >>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> With OpenOffice or any Word Processor, how do you read tables along with >>>> column headings efficiently. Despite all the declarations to the contrary, >>>> this is one area where I really miss Windows for any reading and, frankly, >>>> Parallels is not the answer for me. After all, this is why I partially >>>> left Windows in the first place. >>>> >>>> Rajiv >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ---- Original message ---- >>>>> Date: Tue, 3 Aug 2010 19:36:26 +0200 >>>>> From: Michael Busboom <[email protected]> >>>>> Subject: Re: Reopen office >>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>> >>>>> Just out of curiosity, Sarah, what text editor do you use when or if you >>>>> have to produce DOC files? >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> >>>>> Mike >>>>> On 3,Aug,2010, at 6:39 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> OPen office tends to have some odd issues since it is is written in >>>>>> java. I don't get the clicking sound when it reads a paragraph but i can >>>>>> interact with th etext. I don't use open office for anything I do. >>>>>> >>>>>> Take care. >>>>>> On Aug 3, 2010, at 6:41 AM, Michael Busboom wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hello Erik, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You may have missed this note but then again, maybe not. I sent the >>>>>>> following to the Macvisionaries List but didn't get any real helpful >>>>>>> responses. I'm not trying to badger you at all, but you may have >>>>>>> missed my note and you may have some thoughts. I would be curious to >>>>>>> know if you have the same issues when using Open Office. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I am running the latest version of Open Office and am having an >>>>>>> annoying problem reading documents. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Whenever I arrow up or down through a document, VO will make a soft >>>>>>> clicking sound, say "edit Text" and then read the text on that >>>>>>> particular line. Whenever I try to interact with the document, I am >>>>>>> only permitted to interact with the line that I am currently on. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Is there a way to change the behavior of either VO or Open Office to >>>>>>> make listening to text easier as I arrow through it, or is this >>>>>>> something with which one must live when using Open Office and >>>>>>> VoiceOver? Are there any "must settings" in the View menu options that >>>>>>> need to be taken into consideration? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks and best regards, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Mike >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>>> [email protected]. >>>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>> [email protected]. >>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>> [email protected]. >>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> [email protected]. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> [email protected]. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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