Hi,  You wrote:

> If you need to use Flash and DRM, use Windows. If you want to use other 
> stuff, use Mac. 

That's not accurate, right, or fare, or even what any one here said.  It would 
be more Accurate to say adobe will not support us on the mac platform, and if 
you want to use a drm that is proprietary to windows, then you have to use 
windows.

I can use the flash on the mlb.com website which was built with accessibility 
in mind.  It works just fine on the mac, but is not supported.  That means I 
can listen to my baseball game, and thanks to the developers of that particular 
application, I can pause, mute, adjust the volume and have access to other 
features of the player.

In summary, all of the support you want on your mac comes from third parties 
who don't want to support you, not from apple itself.

Then you Wrote:
> to clarify one point. If VoiceOver says clickable, this relates to an onClick 
> event rather than a mouseOver. THis is an onMouseOver event. How do folks 
> know that the onMouseOver event is there with VoiceOver?
> 
You've got to give us a sample site as requested earlier.  For myself, I'm not 
sure voiceover makes all that much distinction between onclick and onmouseover, 
but if we don't know what you are looking at exactly, how are we supposed to 
clarify for you one way or the other?

Sorry if the tone of this sounds a bit abrupt.  I'm flying out the door for 
work. 

Take'er easy.

Erik Burggraaf
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On 2010-08-09, at 7:56 AM, Rajiv Shah wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> Actually several outfits still use Flash including the BBC. Here is the 
> summary I am getting from folks:
> If you need to use Flash and DRM, use Windows. If you want to use other 
> stuff, use Mac. Also, to clarify one point. If VoiceOver says clickable, this 
> relates to an onClick event rather than a mouseOver. THis is an onMouseOver 
> event. How do folks know that the onMouseOver event is there with VoiceOver?
> 
> Rajiv
> 
> ---- Original message ----
>> Date: Sun, 8 Aug 2010 21:54:23 +1200
>> From: "Simon Fogarty" <[email protected]>  
>> Subject: RE: Mac vs. Windows Accessibility was Re: Reopen office  
>> To: <[email protected]>
>> 
>> both apple and Microsoft have made the decision to move away from flash and
>> go to html5. The only one  still using flash appears to be youtube, owned if
>> I'm not mistaken by google.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected]
>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Kevin Shaw
>> Sent: Sunday, 8 August 2010 2:06 a.m.
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: Mac vs. Windows Accessibility was Re: Reopen office
>> 
>> Flash sucks. This is why Apple is pushing HTML 5. It's open, it's less
>> bloated and less proprietary. 
>> 
>> For using Flash, you may still need to run Windows on a Mac and use it with
>> JAWS. 
>> 
>> Kevin
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