No! no! no! that might confused the heck out of me. I would not want it sounding like I'm entering in a password all the time. Maybe a quiet ping or something.
S On Aug 14, 2010, at 1:11 PM, Michael Busboom wrote: > Hi. > > When I started this thread, I wasn't thinking of the key click feature. > Actually, I would never use it. However, in order to help the accessibility > people at Apple, would it be fair to say that the key clicks you envisage > would sound like the ones that the Mac gives us when we enter secure > passwords? I rather like the fact that these key clicks are issued. > > Best to all, > > Mike > > On 13,Aug,2010, at 9:09 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> lol. tha'ts tprobably why I type very hard, eather that or it's my piano >> playing that causes me to type hard. lol! >> >> >> On Aug 13, 2010, at 10:24 AM, Michael Thurman wrote: >> >>> exactly! jut have them add it to the typing echo place in the verbosity >>> settings. a really fast click would be nice as laptop keyboard are very >>> quiet. those of us who learned to type on an IBM selectric or other >>> electric typewriters before we had computers would appreciate it.. wnat t >>> make it very fancy, record an ibm selectric it isn't tactile feedback but >>> it would be handy I sometimes miss letters if I type too softly and too >>> quickly >>> On Aug 5, 2010, at 8:12 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>> >>>> yeah true. Hmm I dunno. Maybe a click not a cherp, like a typing sound >>>> maybe? >>>> On Aug 5, 2010, at 4:47 PM, Michael Thurman wrote: >>>> >>>>> well of course you could turn it on or off I'm thinking of a slight >>>>> click nt abeep or chirp and anyone could turn the sound on or off at will >>>>> :) >>>>> On Aug 5, 2010, at 1:39 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I agree. Although the chirp is a good one I too asan end user would feel >>>>>> overwhelmed whenit comes to noises. >>>>>> >>>>>> S >>>>>> On Aug 5, 2010, at 9:07 AM, Michael Busboom wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hello Michael, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Although I do not know how this feature would help, who am I to say >>>>>>> that it wouldn't. There are a couple of things, however, that one must >>>>>>> keep in mind. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 1. There is already some feedback from keyboard entry in the form of >>>>>>> tones. For example when Caps Lock is activated, you get beeps to >>>>>>> indicate this. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 2. When attempting to enter information in an area information can't >>>>>>> be entered, the keyboard "chirps." >>>>>>> >>>>>>> My concern is that if every single key clicked, then beeped when the >>>>>>> Caps Lock is on, etc., the user might be overwhelmed with too much >>>>>>> feedback. When I originally brought up the idea of having VO emit an >>>>>>> error tone after a word had been written, I wasn't thinking about >>>>>>> anything else than preserving a silent typing environment but still >>>>>>> being notified right away when a word was mis-spelled. To my way of >>>>>>> thinking, this would speed up the editing process for everyone who >>>>>>> wanted to use it and, for those of us who work in multilingual >>>>>>> environments, it would be a great way for the Mac to say: "Hey, you may >>>>>>> want to switch your keyboard to another language!" I have accidentally >>>>>>> written several paragraphs before discovering that I was writing German >>>>>>> texts but hadn't switched my keyboard over to that keyboard layout. >>>>>>> Had this feature that I want been available, I would have saved myself >>>>>>> tons of time and grief more than once. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Best regards, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Mike >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 5,Aug,2010, at 2:53 PM, Michael Thurman wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> this brings an idea to mind. I used to have an atari st that had a >>>>>>>> very soft click or chirp when keys were pressed I wonder if we could >>>>>>>> get a very very light click sound that would sound on each keypress. >>>>>>>> to be useful ti would have to be very quiet, preferably adjustable, or >>>>>>>> let you select what sound you want it to use, for me a very soft tick >>>>>>>> like you would hear from an old ibm tactile keyboard would be awesome >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Jul 31, 2010, at 8:58 AM, Scott Howell wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Please file this as a request. I think this is a very good idea and >>>>>>>>> one that needs to be implemented. I for one would like it and I will >>>>>>>>> also make the request again. :) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>>> On Jul 31, 2010, at 8:07 AM, Michael Busboom wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hello everyone, >>>>>>>>>> Before submitting this feature request to the accessibility team at >>>>>>>>>> Apple, I was curious if (1) it is implemented already and (2) what >>>>>>>>>> others thought. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I work in a multilingual context daily. I am very satisfied with my >>>>>>>>>> text-to-speech software, too. However, I occasionally have this >>>>>>>>>> annoying problem that wouldn't be a problem if one of VO's features >>>>>>>>>> could be enhanced just a bit. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Whenever I type, I keep all keyboard echo features turned off. This >>>>>>>>>> means that I only hear text when I move the arrow keys or invoke a >>>>>>>>>> VO function that causes something to be spoken. I find that I make >>>>>>>>>> a lot more mistakes when writing if there is any feedback whatsoever >>>>>>>>>> when I am typing. One of the really cool things about VO, however, >>>>>>>>>> is that whenever the Caps Lock is invoked VO beeps each time a key >>>>>>>>>> is pressed. I like this a lot. I also very much appreciate the >>>>>>>>>> fact that whenever a word I encounter while listening to a text is >>>>>>>>>> mis-spelled, VO sends an error beep. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> What I would like to see is an extension to this feature wherein VO >>>>>>>>>> beeped on a mis-spelled word, even if the keyboard is silent. I >>>>>>>>>> don't know how many times I started to write a text in English, only >>>>>>>>>> to realize later that I was still using a German keyboard. I would >>>>>>>>>> save a lot of time and hassle if, immediately after the first >>>>>>>>>> mis-spelled word was encountered, I could switch the keyboard to the >>>>>>>>>> appropriate language. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I would also use this feature extensively, even if I were in a >>>>>>>>>> monolingual context. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Your thoughts? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Have a great day, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Mike >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>>>>>> [email protected]. >>>>>>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>>>>> [email protected]. >>>>>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>>>> [email protected]. >>>>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>>> [email protected]. >>>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>> [email protected]. >>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>> [email protected]. >>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> [email protected]. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> [email protected]. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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