Actually in my case some letters don't press if I don't' press hard enough so in my case I leave keyboard echo on so I know if I mistyped something cause I though the letter pressed.
S On Aug 14, 2010, at 2:54 PM, Scott Howell wrote: > How about no sound at all. Surely you will know when your pressing the keys. > THe sound would become distracting and the entire point is silence not noise. > On Aug 14, 2010, at 4:38 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> No! no! no! that might confused the heck out of me. I would not want it >> sounding like I'm entering in a password all the time. Maybe a quiet ping or >> something. >> >> S >> On Aug 14, 2010, at 1:11 PM, Michael Busboom wrote: >> >>> Hi. >>> >>> When I started this thread, I wasn't thinking of the key click feature. >>> Actually, I would never use it. However, in order to help the >>> accessibility people at Apple, would it be fair to say that the key clicks >>> you envisage would sound like the ones that the Mac gives us when we enter >>> secure passwords? I rather like the fact that these key clicks are issued. >>> >>> Best to all, >>> >>> Mike >>> >>> On 13,Aug,2010, at 9:09 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>> >>>> lol. tha'ts tprobably why I type very hard, eather that or it's my piano >>>> playing that causes me to type hard. lol! >>>> >>>> >>>> On Aug 13, 2010, at 10:24 AM, Michael Thurman wrote: >>>> >>>>> exactly! jut have them add it to the typing echo place in the verbosity >>>>> settings. a really fast click would be nice as laptop keyboard are very >>>>> quiet. those of us who learned to type on an IBM selectric or other >>>>> electric typewriters before we had computers would appreciate it.. wnat t >>>>> make it very fancy, record an ibm selectric it isn't tactile feedback >>>>> but it would be handy I sometimes miss letters if I type too softly and >>>>> too quickly >>>>> On Aug 5, 2010, at 8:12 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> yeah true. Hmm I dunno. Maybe a click not a cherp, like a typing sound >>>>>> maybe? >>>>>> On Aug 5, 2010, at 4:47 PM, Michael Thurman wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> well of course you could turn it on or off I'm thinking of a slight >>>>>>> click nt abeep or chirp and anyone could turn the sound on or off at >>>>>>> will :) >>>>>>> On Aug 5, 2010, at 1:39 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I agree. Although the chirp is a good one I too asan end user would >>>>>>>> feel overwhelmed whenit comes to noises. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> S >>>>>>>> On Aug 5, 2010, at 9:07 AM, Michael Busboom wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hello Michael, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Although I do not know how this feature would help, who am I to say >>>>>>>>> that it wouldn't. There are a couple of things, however, that one >>>>>>>>> must keep in mind. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 1. There is already some feedback from keyboard entry in the form of >>>>>>>>> tones. For example when Caps Lock is activated, you get beeps to >>>>>>>>> indicate this. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 2. When attempting to enter information in an area information can't >>>>>>>>> be entered, the keyboard "chirps." >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> My concern is that if every single key clicked, then beeped when the >>>>>>>>> Caps Lock is on, etc., the user might be overwhelmed with too much >>>>>>>>> feedback. When I originally brought up the idea of having VO emit an >>>>>>>>> error tone after a word had been written, I wasn't thinking about >>>>>>>>> anything else than preserving a silent typing environment but still >>>>>>>>> being notified right away when a word was mis-spelled. To my way of >>>>>>>>> thinking, this would speed up the editing process for everyone who >>>>>>>>> wanted to use it and, for those of us who work in multilingual >>>>>>>>> environments, it would be a great way for the Mac to say: "Hey, you >>>>>>>>> may want to switch your keyboard to another language!" I have >>>>>>>>> accidentally written several paragraphs before discovering that I was >>>>>>>>> writing German texts but hadn't switched my keyboard over to that >>>>>>>>> keyboard layout. Had this feature that I want been available, I >>>>>>>>> would have saved myself tons of time and grief more than once. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Best regards, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Mike >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 5,Aug,2010, at 2:53 PM, Michael Thurman wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> this brings an idea to mind. I used to have an atari st that had a >>>>>>>>>> very soft click or chirp when keys were pressed I wonder if we could >>>>>>>>>> get a very very light click sound that would sound on each keypress. >>>>>>>>>> to be useful ti would have to be very quiet, preferably adjustable, >>>>>>>>>> or let you select what sound you want it to use, for me a very soft >>>>>>>>>> tick like you would hear from an old ibm tactile keyboard would be >>>>>>>>>> awesome >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Jul 31, 2010, at 8:58 AM, Scott Howell wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Please file this as a request. I think this is a very good idea and >>>>>>>>>>> one that needs to be implemented. I for one would like it and I >>>>>>>>>>> will also make the request again. :) >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 31, 2010, at 8:07 AM, Michael Busboom wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Hello everyone, >>>>>>>>>>>> Before submitting this feature request to the accessibility team >>>>>>>>>>>> at Apple, I was curious if (1) it is implemented already and (2) >>>>>>>>>>>> what others thought. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I work in a multilingual context daily. I am very satisfied with >>>>>>>>>>>> my text-to-speech software, too. However, I occasionally have >>>>>>>>>>>> this annoying problem that wouldn't be a problem if one of VO's >>>>>>>>>>>> features could be enhanced just a bit. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Whenever I type, I keep all keyboard echo features turned off. >>>>>>>>>>>> This means that I only hear text when I move the arrow keys or >>>>>>>>>>>> invoke a VO function that causes something to be spoken. I find >>>>>>>>>>>> that I make a lot more mistakes when writing if there is any >>>>>>>>>>>> feedback whatsoever when I am typing. One of the really cool >>>>>>>>>>>> things about VO, however, is that whenever the Caps Lock is >>>>>>>>>>>> invoked VO beeps each time a key is pressed. I like this a lot. >>>>>>>>>>>> I also very much appreciate the fact that whenever a word I >>>>>>>>>>>> encounter while listening to a text is mis-spelled, VO sends an >>>>>>>>>>>> error beep. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> What I would like to see is an extension to this feature wherein >>>>>>>>>>>> VO beeped on a mis-spelled word, even if the keyboard is silent. >>>>>>>>>>>> I don't know how many times I started to write a text in English, >>>>>>>>>>>> only to realize later that I was still using a German keyboard. I >>>>>>>>>>>> would save a lot of time and hassle if, immediately after the >>>>>>>>>>>> first mis-spelled word was encountered, I could switch the >>>>>>>>>>>> keyboard to the appropriate language. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I would also use this feature extensively, even if I were in a >>>>>>>>>>>> monolingual context. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Your thoughts? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Have a great day, >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Mike >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to >>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]. >>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]. >>>>>>>>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>>>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google 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