Paul,

that could be it, an old computer may just not be able to handle it.

My Mac is on the way fear not, although iTunes is not the reason...

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-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Paul Hunt
Sent: 18 October 2010 13:11
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Screen Readers on the Mac

Hello Neil. I also used ITunes with JAWS 11 but still found it slow and
cumbersome. It's probably because my machine is about five years old. I also
found synching to be a real problem. If it works for you, however, that's
great. For me, I've moved to the mac never to return to Windows for ITunes. 

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Neil Barnfather -
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Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2010 7:54 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Screen Readers on the Mac

Paul,

I just wanted to say, as it's a popular miss conception, I've got no issues
using iTunes on a PC with JAWS. your comments, and many others were right in
the old days.

days when we needed things like  jTunes and things like that.

but using JAWS 11 and iTunes 9 or preferably 10, there's no issues at all.

having used iTunes on a Mac with Voice Over and on a PC with jaws. both
experiences were just fine, no difference whatsoever, and both sync quite
happily with either OutLook on a PC or iCal and Mail on a mac.

people make these comments without trying things on the latest
configurations, and it makes others think that what they wish to do won't
work. or that they'll have a lesser experience.

it will and does so without an issue. 

I would say that there are other areas where the Mac shines through such as
stability and performance of Voice Over and the fact that Voice Over uses
very little system resources. but this old card of iTunes is brought up time
and time again, and its just plain old nonsense.


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-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Paul Hunt
Sent: 16 October 2010 10:39
To: [email protected]
Subject: Screen Readers on the Mac

Hello Heather. I would encourage you to start working with vo right away.
Reading is ok but doing is great. You really don't need another screen
reader on the mac because VO is part of the OS. Any other screen reader in
Windows is a compromise at best. I'm not saying that Windows Accessibility
is bad and that the screen readers don't work well. I am saying that VO
generally works better and the overall solution is more cost effective.
Think of it this way. ITunes is available for Windows and the MAC. There is
no comkparison, ITunes works much much much better on the MAC. Synching with
the IPhone is perfect. Any contact or calendar event I add on the mac synchs
flawlessly because the whole system is designed to work together. This is
true for VO on the Mac.

I hope you have a nice day. Since we're both in Austin, maybe we can get
together and work with our macs.

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of heather kd5cbl
Sent: Friday, October 15, 2010 6:32 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Apple's event next wednesday

I like vo but I was wondering if apple will allow other screenreader 
programs to opperate on the mac.  I was just thinking about this because, I 
have jaws and NVDA on my windows computer.  So when jaws is giving me grief,

I can switch to NVDA which usually tells me what jaws won't or when jaws is 
stuck.  I like plan b if plan a does not work.  Heather 

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