Ah, so that's how they do it then. Makes sense. Certainly shortens the 
development curve, doesn't it?
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On Nov 26, 2010, at 5:37 PM, Justin Ekis wrote:

> Hi Buddy,
> 
> Interestingly, I use ProtectMac antivirus, and had to wait while the dmg was 
> scanned after downloading. I could see the file names inside the .app bundle 
> as the scan progressed through the disk image. There was a "wine" directory 
> with a bunch of dll files in it. It seems to be running the eye-pal software 
> inside a windows emulator. That seems a little odd to me, but it explains why 
> it runs under x11 and separately from voiceover.
> 
> It will still be totally usable, so there's no problem with this. I just 
> found it surprising and interesting purely from a technical perspective. 
> However they do it, I'm glad that there's something I can run on the mac 
> without firing up a full virtual machine. This is an improvement.
> 
> On Nov 26, 2010, at 4:26 PM, Buddy Brannan wrote:
> 
> Well, good news for me. Apparently, all I had to do to use the Zoomex was to 
> download the software and install it. I really got a good deal, someone was 
> selling their barely used Zoomex, about a year or 18 months old, had to move 
> it, so I got a steal. That, plus $200 to get up to the latest version of the 
> software, and I came out way ahead. No upgrade cost for the Mac version is 
> even better.
> 
> Some preliminary observations, in case anyone's giving the Eyepal or Zoomex 
> some thought:
> 
> The software is a self-voicing environment. It's written under X-Window, 
> apparently, and runs in that environment. Therefore, it's completely separate 
> from Voiceover, and generally speaking, its controls are inaccessible using 
> Voiceover. Further, it uses the same Nuance Realspeak Solo voices that the PC 
> version does, and also uses the same or similar commands to the Windows 
> version. If you're familiar with the Windows version, it appears that moving 
> straight across to the Mac will be fairly easy and straightforward. One thing 
> that threw me at first and wasn't exceedingly well documented was that you 
> get to the Zoomex (and, presumably, Eyepal) menu with the cmd key, much as 
> you'd use the alt key to pull down the menu in Windows. It looks like their 
> design decision was to make the softwre on the Mac look and act like the 
> software on Windows, so the documentation could be pretty well pulled 
> straight across with little to no alteration; in fact, Zoomex for the Mac 
> even mentions that you won't need JAWS. 
> 
> I haven't tried a scan yet, but I fully expect that it will work just like 
> theWindows version of the software. 
> --
> Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
> Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY
> 
> 
> 
> On Nov 26, 2010, at 3:14 PM, Mary Otten wrote:
> 
>> For those who are curious and have lots of money, the above subject line 
>> says it all. This price represents a very substantial discount off the usual 
>> price of this device, which connects via a usb cable to a Mac or a Windows 
>> pc and comes with software for either. The demos on the site are rather 
>> primitive. For instance, there is no screen reder feedback in the 
>> background, so one must take it on faith that the controls are all 
>> accessible via the keyboard in some fashion. Of note is the fact that you 
>> can scan two pages at once of only what they term small paperbacks, which I 
>> take to mean pocket books. there is no support documentation on line that I 
>> could find, and thus one has no way of getting an overview of what this will 
>> actually do, beyond the basics demonstrated in the short demo "tutorials". 
>> If they have a decent return policy, and you've got the money, it could be 
>> worth investigating.
>> 
>> Mary
>> 
>> Mary Otten
>> motte...@gmail.com
>> 
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