Well we'll see what happens in a few years. Ok I'll shut up now. lol! S On Dec 9, 2010, at 11:52 AM, Scott Howell wrote:
> Scott I could not agree more. If these carriers did not know what they were > getting into, that is not Apple's fault and believe me they knew there is no > question about that. THey are just looking for handouts. And for those who > want to continue to argue in favor for the carriers, the carriers could > simply stop carrying the iPHone and then they can cry about the subscribers > they would not continue to attract. > Scott > > > > > > On Dec 9, 2010, at 1:43 PM, Scott Granados wrote: > >> But you're wrong here, Apple Google and the others already to "invest" in >> these companies. They pay their Internet bills. Sure Google has a huge >> infrastructure and does a lot of settlement free traffic exchanging but they >> buy a ton of pipes, transport, facilities, buildings, on and on and they do >> buy transit so pay per packet for traffic not directly connected. Same with >> Apple and the other companies you mention. Apple pays Internap per megabit >> just like everyone else does. It's not Apple's job to pay some European >> carrier because they can't manage their own infrastructure. It's like >> saying I should have to pay Cox Cable money because I use a lot of service >> from Comcast. That's just silly. >> >> >> On Dec 9, 2010, at 7:22 AM, Ruud Bemelmans wrote: >> >>> I don't think this is such a bad idea, because it keeps reinforcing the >>> industry. If Apple, google and other companies that produce smart phones >>> want to keep up the current success of said phones, then investing in the >>> networks will eventually result in an even bigger success rates. If the >>> carriers can't maintain the network, the sale of smart phones will dwindle >>> and the carriers as well as the smart phone producers will have a bad time >>> all around. The big question however is, if this goes through, how much >>> extra costs will that generate for the customers? But to be fair, that's >>> always the question with changes in various industries. >>> >>> On a short of-topic note: I didn't think the few politics-related messages >>> were relevant to the subject as politics didn't get mentioned anywhere in >>> the article or in the on-topic replies. I'm just mentioning this as this is >>> an international list with god knows how many people from various >>> backgrounds and politics is one of those subjects that always causes >>> trouble in such a varied group. (just my opinion) >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> [email protected]. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
