This is the quicksand I don't like to get into: whether an app is accessible or not. I think facebook is accessible; just hard to use at times. When I think of inaccessible, I think of apps that don't have anything read by VO at all. Just my two cents.
Teresa "On the other hand, there are different fingers." On Dec 1, 2011, at 6:05 AM, Rahul Bajaj wrote: > Isn't it possible for anyone to make an accessible app for using Facebook? > Some of the people in this group are really very skilled when it comes > to these things, so can't they do anything about it? > > On 01/12/2011, Teresa Cochran <[email protected]> wrote: >> Hi, Paul, >> >> With Facebook, I do a lot of VO-f keypresses to find things like "friends" >> or "what's on your mind?" Also I use VO-command-j to find form fields, >> VO-command-H to find headings, and VO-command-l to find links. To get past >> all the top stories, I go past the search form field with a bunch of >> VO-command-J's and then press VO-command-H to find the first story in the >> most recent category. >> >> HTh, >> Teresa >> >> I'm a pantheist; I worship Pan. >> >> On Nov 30, 2011, at 9:35 AM, Chris Blouch wrote: >> >>> While the solution is patented and currently under development, the folks >>> over at Towson University have come up with a novel approach using sound >>> cues instead of garbled speech as the captcha. I'm trying to get access to >>> a demo but there is a lot of NDA wrapped around it so I probably can't >>> share much else at this point. If it works well 'for real' I expect you'll >>> see this spread all over the internet for audio captchas. Here is their >>> press release which is also a bit skimpy on details: >>> >>> http://www.towson.edu/outreach/press.asp?e=126&t=n >>> >>> CB >>> >>> On 11/30/11 12:01 PM, Mr. L. Alexander wrote: >>>> the problem with facebook extends to many thousands of sites across the >>>> world who do not properly code or object label their sites. each part of >>>> a site contains graphical links, etc which in cases are not labeled or if >>>> ar then left as numbers, making life EXTREMELY difficult for us all. >>>> >>>> it's not a case of an app in most cases to make a website accessible, >>>> it's a question of the developers listening to website accessibility >>>> requirements and documentation which is widely available and in many >>>> cases, developers comply with these rules and development requirements. >>>> >>>> that's the sad fact of it. I've lost count of sites I've had to work with >>>> where I've had to have sighted help even to get a bloomin phone number. >>>> >>>> the other ridiculous issue is CAPTCHA. don't get me started on this >>>> nightmare, then adding inaudible translations which are poorly recorded >>>> and distorted. an absolute joke. >>>> >>>> sorry. it's one of those days for Free Macs For The Blind where things >>>> aren't looking too good. >>>> >>>> lew >>>> >>>> >>>> On 30 Nov 2011, at 16:19, Paul Erkens wrote: >>>> >>>>> Dear listers, >>>>> >>>>> What is the best way for a voiceover mac or an iphone user to work with >>>>> facebook? I have a small app on my phone but its accessibility is not >>>>> what you would wish for, to say it carefully. I just don't get the hang >>>>> of it with all those unlabeled things that say image image >>>>> button button button. The normal facebook site is big. I don't find my >>>>> around there easily. There's also a mobile version, but is there an >>>>> alternative? For example, another facebook app, not from the facebook >>>>> team, an app that is accessible to voiceover? If we have to use either >>>>> the regular or the mobile facebook site, do you have any information on >>>>> what to ignore? >>>>> >>>>> Paul. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>> [email protected]. >>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>> >>>> >>>> Mr. L. 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