Hi, Paul,

I have been using Facebook to varying degrees for three years. I actually have 
not noticed capchias recently, but this could be due to the way I've had things 
set up. I let Facebook put a cookie on my hard drive, and I always use the 
secure site.

As I pretty much use Facebook for social purposes, I mainly post my status and 
send and receive messages. Between using the mobile and standard sites, I find 
it to be usable, with room for improvement. Based on what I personally use, I 
have not experienced complete inaccessibility of a feature.

I do note that I'm a fairly patient person, and willing to work with a certain 
amount of challenge, so YMMV. I understand that not everyone has the time in 
inclination to deal with this sort of thing. No product I have ever used has 
been completely and entirely accessible, and to me, this is a fairly realistic 
way of looking at things.

HtH,
Teresa

"On the other hand, there are different fingers."

On Dec 2, 2011, at 1:32 PM, Paul Erkens wrote:

> Hi Teresa,
> What you're saying is that facebook is accessible, but hard to use at times. 
> If you succeed in working with facebook, I'll give facebook more attention, 
> and then see how far I get. Good to know from you that its doable.
> Paul.
> On Dec 1, 2011, at 6:57 AM, Teresa Cochran wrote:
> 
>> Hi, Paul,
>> 
>> With Facebook, I do a lot of VO-f keypresses to find things like "friends" 
>> or "what's on your mind?" Also I use VO-command-j to find form fields, 
>> VO-command-H to find headings, and VO-command-l to find links. To get past 
>> all the top stories, I go past the search form field with a bunch of 
>> VO-command-J's and then press VO-command-H to find the first story in the 
>> most recent category.
>> 
>> HTh,
>> Teresa
>> 
>> I'm a pantheist; I worship Pan.
>> 
>> On Nov 30, 2011, at 9:35 AM, Chris Blouch wrote:
>> 
>>> While the solution is patented and currently under development, the folks 
>>> over at Towson University have come up with a novel approach using sound 
>>> cues instead of garbled speech as the captcha. I'm trying to get access to 
>>> a demo but there is a lot of NDA wrapped around it so I probably can't 
>>> share much else at this point. If it works well 'for real' I expect you'll 
>>> see this spread all over the internet for audio captchas. Here is their 
>>> press release which is also a bit skimpy on details:
>>> 
>>> http://www.towson.edu/outreach/press.asp?e=126&t=n
>>> 
>>> CB
>>> 
>>> On 11/30/11 12:01 PM, Mr. L. Alexander wrote:
>>>> the problem with facebook extends to many thousands of sites across the 
>>>> world who do not properly code or object label their sites. each part of a 
>>>> site contains graphical links, etc which in cases are not labeled or if ar 
>>>> then left as numbers, making life EXTREMELY difficult for us all.
>>>> 
>>>> it's not a case of an app in most cases to make a website accessible, it's 
>>>> a question of the developers listening to website accessibility 
>>>> requirements and documentation which is widely available and in many 
>>>> cases, developers comply with these rules and development requirements.
>>>> 
>>>> that's the sad fact of it. I've lost count of sites I've had to work with 
>>>> where I've had to have sighted help even to get a bloomin phone number.
>>>> 
>>>> the other ridiculous issue is CAPTCHA. don't get me started on this 
>>>> nightmare, then adding inaudible translations which are poorly recorded 
>>>> and distorted. an absolute joke.
>>>> 
>>>> sorry. it's one of those days for Free Macs For The Blind where things 
>>>> aren't looking too good.
>>>> 
>>>> lew
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 30 Nov 2011, at 16:19, Paul Erkens wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Dear listers,
>>>>> 
>>>>> What is the best way for a voiceover mac or an iphone user to work with 
>>>>> facebook? I have a small app on my phone but its accessibility is not 
>>>>> what you would wish for, to say it carefully. I just don't get the hang 
>>>>> of it with all those             unlabeled things that say image image 
>>>>> button button button. The normal facebook site is big. I don't find my 
>>>>> around there easily. There's also a mobile version, but is there an 
>>>>> alternative? For example, another facebook app, not from the facebook 
>>>>> team, an app that is accessible to voiceover? If we have to use either 
>>>>> the regular or the mobile facebook site, do you have any information on 
>>>>> what to ignore?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Paul.
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>>>> Mr. L. Alexander.
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