Thanks, I'll have a look around and see what I can find.

On 12/1/11, Mr. L. Alexander <[email protected]> wrote:
> looking through my technet stuff, you can use the mini display port adaptor
> to VGA on your thunderbolt interface. it's the same connector, just enhanced
> data support as thunderbolt isn't just for displays, it's data as well, so
> it can be used for large data storage systems, pro audio when the format is
> supported, etc.
>
> hope this helps.
>
> so all you need is a mini displayport to VGA adaptor.
>
> lew
>
> On 1 Dec 2011, at 21:54, Alex Hall wrote:
>
>> I have the basic model, bought in August. It should be standard HDMI,
>> I'm not planning on using a Thunderbolt display. Hopefully all this
>> won't cost much...
>>
>> On 12/1/11, Chris Blouch <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> I've had problems with Apple's DVI to VGA holding the VGA connector in
>>> tight sometimes. A little gaffer tape seemed to fix that right up.
>>>
>>> CB
>>>
>>> On 12/1/11 4:17 PM, Alex Hall wrote:
>>>> I have a VGA monitor. My problem is that the adapter that came with my
>>>> Mini goes from HDMI to DVI, then I have an adapter to go from VGA to
>>>> DVI to interface the monitor with Apple's adapter... but the adapter
>>>> does not fit securely into the HDMI adapter, so I get no monitor
>>>> output. Still, if it won't fix mail, safari, or some of the odd
>>>> pauses, it isn't worth investigating to me.
>>>>
>>>> On 12/1/11, Mr. L. Alexander<[email protected]>  wrote:
>>>>> the official standpoint on this from a hardware point of view is
>>>>> this...
>>>>>
>>>>> A monitor is part of a system by default and as the system boots, part
>>>>> of
>>>>> it's boot sequence is to find a display as part of the user interface.
>>>>> if
>>>>> it
>>>>> can't then it's going to continue but have issues with the GPU
>>>>> (graphical
>>>>> processor unit) and OS behaviour, after all the mac / pc interface
>>>>> relies
>>>>> on
>>>>> a display to support it. hence the use of 15 pin D Sub / DVI / display
>>>>> port
>>>>> / mini displayport / HDMI interface as a display interface.
>>>>>
>>>>> Even for a blind person, it's useful to have a suitable VGA monitor for
>>>>> a
>>>>> sighted user to assist where possible. bearing in mind that screen
>>>>> readers
>>>>> cannot always do everything we need them to do.
>>>>>
>>>>> lew
>>>>>
>>>>> On 1 Dec 2011, at 21:09, Ioana Gandrabur wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Can<t really say. Have only used it with the fake monitor. I just
>>>>>> remember
>>>>>> that as I got started those issues mentioned were the ones bugging me
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> most.
>>>>>> I find in general it runs faster.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> hth,
>>>>>> Ioana
>>>>>> On Dec 1, 2011, at 3:26 PM, Alex Hall wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> How about Mail or Safari? I know Safari might just be a lost cause,
>>>>>>> but does Mail speed up? I find it very slow and annoying to use, and
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>> don't have a monitor.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 12/1/11, Ioana Gandrabur<[email protected]>  wrote:
>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I found that, if my monitor replacement contraption is not
>>>>>>>> recognized
>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>> few
>>>>>>>> clear things happen:
>>>>>>>> 1. Vo is on in login but not after you put in my password so I have
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> press
>>>>>>>> command f5 again.
>>>>>>>> 2. In itunes if I perform a sync or anything that puts info in the
>>>>>>>> lcd
>>>>>>>> section of itunes I cannot access it. If I try to interact with it
>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>> goes
>>>>>>>> busy on me.
>>>>>>>> These things are solved when a monitor or a monitor adaptor box is
>>>>>>>> attached
>>>>>>>> to the mini.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> hth,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Ioana
>>>>>>>> On Nov 30, 2011, at 10:22 AM, Chris Blouch wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Without a VGA monitor or the NTSC contraption attached your Mac
>>>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>>> endlesly scan for a non-existant monitor which will bog it down.
>>>>>>>>> Not
>>>>>>>>> sure
>>>>>>>>> how to tell if the Mac thinks there is a display hooked up at the
>>>>>>>>> moment
>>>>>>>>> but if you're getting a lot of voiceover busy messages that's
>>>>>>>>> usually
>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>> symptom.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> CB
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 11/30/11 9:56 AM, matthew Dyer wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I managed to connect my vga addapter.  My question is this.  How
>>>>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>> tell if it is working.  I don't have a monitor as of yet as I am
>>>>>>>>>> still
>>>>>>>>>> trying to find one, but I was under the empression that it is
>>>>>>>>>> supposed
>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>> make the machine act as if a display is connected.Is there a way
>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>> find
>>>>>>>>>> out if it is working?  Thanks.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Matthew
>>>>>>>>>>
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