Is there such a cross-platform compiler system that supports
accessibility? Most Mac developers I know of use XCode and so I'm not
sure how this could be used with a common codebase. I know one developer
who was using MonoTouch to make iOS and android apps and the iOS
versions were pretty much totally inaccessible.
I also disagree with Adobe's approach, but as for covering themselves
for FCC compliance they might have a reasonable case to make.
Do you know of a good cross-platform (Mac/Windows or iOS/Android) IDE
that works with accessibility APIs?
CB
On 12/15/11 1:02 PM, Mr. L. Alexander wrote:
A simple solution is this and it's something easy to manage.
Where an application developer creates an application from scratch as
an example and intends to write for multiple OS architectures,
Windows, Mac, Linux, etc,
The developer in most cases has 2 options. Either a universal custom
manguage allowing just one app to be created, then to be compiled to
sub platforms ( OS X, windows, linux, etc) or and this would be a
much better option.
the developer of an app have a dedicated windows system and dedicated
mac system to use suitable programming languages which then give user
accessibility options based on the true OS on each host. thereby
giving a much cleaner approach to creating a market app.
I completely disagree with adobe in their support infrastructure to
access technology. They're a company primarily based in design and
production tools and of course as part of their infrastructure use
plugins which the consumer uses such as adobe flash, shockwave, etc in
any website environment. not allowing us to gain access to the
products in question is their own problem but they will bring it upon
themselves.
Getting back to the developer side of things.
I've been involved with a couple of companies over some time where
certain tools I use have been adapted to my needs. it's taken time
but luckily, the team I work with know where I'm coming from and what
I need, so implementation doesn't take long. it's emailed over to me
or accessed over server to check and then taken on as my tools of the
trade.
Where we stand to be honest is very carefully. the problem we have is
that our voices aren't heard nor understood. you get those in the IT
world who just don't grasp the situation, then there's the types who
roll out any old junk just to rake in the money.
I hope and pray that one day, developers see us as real people with
real needs and not a burden on resources... no... not... "That's a
lovely burden you've got there" kind of thing.
lol
lew
On 15 Dec 2011, at 17:49, Chris Blouch wrote:
But what is the other extreme? Does a vendor need to support any
platform they have an app for? What if they take the Adobe approach
and support the IAccessible2 API which doesn't exit on Mac? Adobe
could claim safe harbor because they did implement accessibility and
it's Apple's lack of support of an open standard that makes it fail.
Or should they be required to support a specific AT on each platform?
That would work well for the Mac where VO is pretty much it, but on
Windows or BlackBerry where AT is bolted on from a menu of different
vendors, that could be untenable. Will be interesting to see how this
plays out and if there are any unintended consequences.
CB
On 12/15/11 12:09 PM, Mr. L. Alexander wrote:
if that were to be the case, that in itself is product exclusion and
discrimination to users relying on the mac.
lew
On 15 Dec 2011, at 17:07, Chris Blouch wrote:
I wonder what impact the new FCC notice of proposed rule making
will have for accessibility in communications apps. Will any email
or chat app have to be accessibly implemented on at least one
platform? So if they make Skype work with Jaws on Windows does that
mean they don't have to do anything for VO on OSX?
CB
On 12/15/11 5:58 AM, Mr. L. Alexander wrote:
Even though we're a small group (thanks for highlighting my
comment) we still have rights of equality and access. it's just a
question of working in partnership with developers, even if it
means becoming beta testers officially and having direct input.
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