On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 07:03:30PM -0700, Jamie Tachiyama wrote:
> They get around it by making the Kindle for PC app accessible.
> 
> 
> On 3/22/12, Hank Smith <[email protected]> wrote:
> > so because of stupid drm copy write crap the blind can't read the ebooks?
> > On 3/22/2012 6:30 PM, Esther wrote:
> >> Hi Jeff,
> >>
> >> There are a number of ebook apps that specifically disable VoiceOver's
> >> ability to access the content in order to preserve digital rights
> >> management.  This is also true if you try to use the Barnes & Noble
> >> Nook app, for example.  You'll notice that usually you can access
> >> everything except for the actual content of the text.  That's being
> >> blocked.  You can verify this by taking a screen capture, and sending
> >> the results to an OCR app like Prizmo or TextGrabber.  The OCR app
> >> will tell you what the contents are, but obviously you're not going to
> >> read the book by screen capturing every page and sending it to an OCR app.
> >>
> >> If you want to read another example of this viewpoint, that the
> >> ability of screen readers to access text would promote copyright
> >> violation, take a look at Greg Kearney's posted response from
> >> Fictionwise in the archives, sent in reply to his inquiry about ebook
> >> accessibility for their ebook reading app just a few months after the
> >> iPhone 3GS was released with VoiceOver support:
> >> • Fwd: Response for Support Ticket #102495
> >> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries%40googlegroups.com/msg06200.html
> >> Since this is the Mail Archive post, if you're reading on your
> >> computer, you can also use access key shortcuts of Control-N to read
> >> down the thread for other reader comments.
> >>
> >> Best,
> >>
> >> Esther
> >>
> >> On Mar 22, 2012, at 2:59 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
> >>
> >>> Forget it.  It ain't gonna happen.
> >>>
> >>> It ain't accessible at all.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Sincerely,
> >>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
> >>>
> >>> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
> >>>
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> >>>
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> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Mar 22, 2012, at 7:38 PM, Jeff Berwick wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Hi All,
> >>>>
> >>>> I downloaded the Kindle app so I can read some of the books that my
> >>>> wife is reading.  I can't, however, figure out how to get it to
> >>>> work.  Has anybody had success with the Kindle app?  Is it
> >>>> accessible?  Any tips?
> >>>>
> >>>> It looks like, to me, that it is displaying images instead of
> >>>> rendering the text.
> >>>>
> >>>> Thx,
> >>>> Jeff
> >>>>
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Yeah, but that's only valid for windows users.  What about those who
use a mac or linux? That's the typical line; use windows and shut up,
or do without.

Also another point that was never made on this thread is disabling
book access through VoiceOver and other a11y technologies is denying
access to Braille readers! To use Braille devices on IOS devices, you
need to use VoiceOver.  

Eric, right on about the publishers, theyare in the same greedy pocket
along with RIAA and MPAA! Another thing one can do with screen reader
solutions instead of audio recorded books is direct scanning; I mean
the ability to verify spellings or formula contents and such.  A
sighted person can look at thee screen or printed page and see things
character by character as needed.  we can do the same with VO or by
reading with a Braille display.  Can't do that with a recording.

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