Say Steve, your reply appears to be way at the bottom of the message. Unless i am mistaken, it seems to be common practice to set one's e-mail client to set the reply at the top of the message. Less scroling down.
Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! Skype name: barefootedray Facebook: facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1 On Mar 24, 2012, at 12:06 PM, Steve Holmes wrote: > On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 07:03:30PM -0700, Jamie Tachiyama wrote: >> They get around it by making the Kindle for PC app accessible. >> >> >> On 3/22/12, Hank Smith <[email protected]> wrote: >>> so because of stupid drm copy write crap the blind can't read the ebooks? >>> On 3/22/2012 6:30 PM, Esther wrote: >>>> Hi Jeff, >>>> >>>> There are a number of ebook apps that specifically disable VoiceOver's >>>> ability to access the content in order to preserve digital rights >>>> management. This is also true if you try to use the Barnes & Noble >>>> Nook app, for example. You'll notice that usually you can access >>>> everything except for the actual content of the text. That's being >>>> blocked. You can verify this by taking a screen capture, and sending >>>> the results to an OCR app like Prizmo or TextGrabber. The OCR app >>>> will tell you what the contents are, but obviously you're not going to >>>> read the book by screen capturing every page and sending it to an OCR app. >>>> >>>> If you want to read another example of this viewpoint, that the >>>> ability of screen readers to access text would promote copyright >>>> violation, take a look at Greg Kearney's posted response from >>>> Fictionwise in the archives, sent in reply to his inquiry about ebook >>>> accessibility for their ebook reading app just a few months after the >>>> iPhone 3GS was released with VoiceOver support: >>>> • Fwd: Response for Support Ticket #102495 >>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries%40googlegroups.com/msg06200.html >>>> Since this is the Mail Archive post, if you're reading on your >>>> computer, you can also use access key shortcuts of Control-N to read >>>> down the thread for other reader comments. >>>> >>>> Best, >>>> >>>> Esther >>>> >>>> On Mar 22, 2012, at 2:59 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: >>>> >>>>> Forget it. It ain't gonna happen. >>>>> >>>>> It ain't accessible at all. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Sincerely, >>>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! >>>>> >>>>> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! >>>>> >>>>> Skype name: >>>>> barefootedray >>>>> >>>>> Facebook: >>>>> facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1 <http://m.facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1?refid=0> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Mar 22, 2012, at 7:38 PM, Jeff Berwick wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi All, >>>>>> >>>>>> I downloaded the Kindle app so I can read some of the books that my >>>>>> wife is reading. I can't, however, figure out how to get it to >>>>>> work. Has anybody had success with the Kindle app? Is it >>>>>> accessible? Any tips? >>>>>> >>>>>> It looks like, to me, that it is displaying images instead of >>>>>> rendering the text. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thx, >>>>>> Jeff >>>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> [email protected]. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> websites: >>> http://www.fivedollarfreedomplan.com/hs5leap.html >>> http://www.tmiwireless.com/?aid=54868 >>> http://www.tmiwireless.com/affiliate/?aid=54868 >>> personal email: >>> [email protected] >>> facebook: >>> http://www.facebook.com/hanksmith5 >>> Klango: >>> hanksmith >>> Skype: >>> hank.smith966 >>> Amateur radio call sign: >>> ke7ief >>> check out my Youtube video of a song I recorded in Nashville Tennessee! >>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mqut5Bi3e7A >>> also you can find my youtube channel at: >>> http://www.youtube.com/hanksmith2011 >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> [email protected]. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Jamie T >> Twitter: jathlete76 >> Facebook: jathlete76 >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > Yeah, but that's only valid for windows users. What about those who > use a mac or linux? That's the typical line; use windows and shut up, > or do without. > > Also another point that was never made on this thread is disabling > book access through VoiceOver and other a11y technologies is denying > access to Braille readers! To use Braille devices on IOS devices, you > need to use VoiceOver. > > Eric, right on about the publishers, theyare in the same greedy pocket > along with RIAA and MPAA! Another thing one can do with screen reader > solutions instead of audio recorded books is direct scanning; I mean > the ability to verify spellings or formula contents and such. A > sighted person can look at thee screen or printed page and see things > character by character as needed. we can do the same with VO or by > reading with a Braille display. Can't do that with a recording. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
