I tried to use navigon and I used to get turn by turn directions but now it 
only tells me when I'vereached my destination but if I don't know how to get 
there it does me no good. I don't know why it stopped doing what I need it to 
do. It didn't even give me the names of the cross streets.

Help!



Jenny and my goofy guide Brooks

On Mar 24, 2012, at 4:19 PM, Sean Murphy <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi all.
> 
> What is the NFB, ACB, and other organisations who support print disable 
> people doing about this?
> 
> They have the funds and expertise to challenge it in a class action. I
> 
> In relation to the number of people who have been restricted from reading 
> Ebooks via this method is larger then America. This effects any country that 
> you can buy Amazon books. The DMR also effects purchasing of Audio books from 
> other english speaking country. So the Authors Gill is forcing American law 
> on to other countries which is a bigger problem. 
> 
> The problem has to be fixed within USA. So guys I would suggest you all start 
> talking to your federal members of government, NFB, etc. Get everyone 
> involved who is USA and feels the same. Make this a real big problem. Being 
> quite about it or complaining on this or other list isn't enough.
> 
> Get out there and do something proactive. I would, but I am not an American 
> citizen. So I cannot even leave base one.
> 
> Sean 
> 
> 
> On 25/03/2012, at 4:26 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
> 
>> Say Steve, your reply appears to be way at the bottom of the message.  
>> Unless i am mistaken, it seems to be common practice to set one's e-mail 
>> client to set the reply at the top of the message.  Less scroling down.
>> 
>> 
>> Sincerely,
>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>> 
>> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
>> 
>> Skype name:
>> barefootedray
>> 
>> Facebook:
>> facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Mar 24, 2012, at 12:06 PM, Steve Holmes wrote:
>> 
>>> On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 07:03:30PM -0700, Jamie Tachiyama wrote:
>>>> They get around it by making the Kindle for PC app accessible.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 3/22/12, Hank Smith <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> so because of stupid drm copy write crap the blind can't read the ebooks?
>>>>> On 3/22/2012 6:30 PM, Esther wrote:
>>>>>> Hi Jeff,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> There are a number of ebook apps that specifically disable VoiceOver's
>>>>>> ability to access the content in order to preserve digital rights
>>>>>> management.  This is also true if you try to use the Barnes & Noble
>>>>>> Nook app, for example.  You'll notice that usually you can access
>>>>>> everything except for the actual content of the text.  That's being
>>>>>> blocked.  You can verify this by taking a screen capture, and sending
>>>>>> the results to an OCR app like Prizmo or TextGrabber.  The OCR app
>>>>>> will tell you what the contents are, but obviously you're not going to
>>>>>> read the book by screen capturing every page and sending it to an OCR 
>>>>>> app.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> If you want to read another example of this viewpoint, that the
>>>>>> ability of screen readers to access text would promote copyright
>>>>>> violation, take a look at Greg Kearney's posted response from
>>>>>> Fictionwise in the archives, sent in reply to his inquiry about ebook
>>>>>> accessibility for their ebook reading app just a few months after the
>>>>>> iPhone 3GS was released with VoiceOver support:
>>>>>> • Fwd: Response for Support Ticket #102495
>>>>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries%40googlegroups.com/msg06200.html
>>>>>> Since this is the Mail Archive post, if you're reading on your
>>>>>> computer, you can also use access key shortcuts of Control-N to read
>>>>>> down the thread for other reader comments.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Esther
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Mar 22, 2012, at 2:59 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Forget it.  It ain't gonna happen.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> It ain't accessible at all.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Skype name:
>>>>>>> barefootedray
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Facebook:
>>>>>>> facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1 <http://m.facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1?refid=0>
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Mar 22, 2012, at 7:38 PM, Jeff Berwick wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I downloaded the Kindle app so I can read some of the books that my
>>>>>>>> wife is reading.  I can't, however, figure out how to get it to
>>>>>>>> work.  Has anybody had success with the Kindle app?  Is it
>>>>>>>> accessible?  Any tips?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> It looks like, to me, that it is displaying images instead of
>>>>>>>> rendering the text.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Thx,
>>>>>>>> Jeff
>>>>>>>> 
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>>> 
>>> Yeah, but that's only valid for windows users.  What about those who
>>> use a mac or linux? That's the typical line; use windows and shut up,
>>> or do without.
>>> 
>>> Also another point that was never made on this thread is disabling
>>> book access through VoiceOver and other a11y technologies is denying
>>> access to Braille readers! To use Braille devices on IOS devices, you
>>> need to use VoiceOver.  
>>> 
>>> Eric, right on about the publishers, theyare in the same greedy pocket
>>> along with RIAA and MPAA! Another thing one can do with screen reader
>>> solutions instead of audio recorded books is direct scanning; I mean
>>> the ability to verify spellings or formula contents and such.  A
>>> sighted person can look at thee screen or printed page and see things
>>> character by character as needed.  we can do the same with VO or by
>>> reading with a Braille display.  Can't do that with a recording.
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