I don't use Hotmail but I should clarify that JavaScript and Java are
two different things which, unfortunately, share a similar name.
Javascript is an interpreted language and the engine is baked into each
browser so Safari uses one that is not the same as Chrome. They all
adhere to a common standard from ECMA so some folks refer to it as
ECMAScript. Java on the other hand is a compiled language used to build
apps and servers. It has been used in the past to make 'applets' which
run inside the browser but there is really little need for that anymore
and is generally frowned upon as a waste of resources. I doubt that
Hotmail uses any Java in their pages and you can verify this by turning
it off in the Java Preferences utility. I suspect Hotmail, like most
other web apps, is just a boatload of javascript.
That said, I did try logging into a hotmail account and while I found
the navigation and UI painful, Safari didn't crash on me. This was on my
laptop running 10.7 with all the updates. Might be something else
throwing things for a loop. I did get a Safari Busy for about 2 seconds
when I first went to the inbox but that might be because the test
account had a lot of spam in it.
CB
On 4/11/12 5:05 PM, Eric Oyen wrote:
well folks.
it seems that I have run up against this brick wall. so I started
troubleshooting why hotmail.com causes my browser to crash.
according to the error reporting console in webkit, hotmail.com makes several
calls to javascripts that aren't included with Apple's JRE. this means that
some or all of hotmail may be inaccessible at random times. I even disabled
javascript altogether and found that the entire hotmail site displayed as a
blank scroll area. What this means is that hotmail isn't going to be very
usable for any future versions of javascript on OS X.
also, I try to hit the contact us link and the browser immediately crashes here.
what oracle (owners of sun java) needs to do is enforce some standard that
requires that everyone use supported calls to javascripts. I am so bloody tired
of having to deal with apple centric JRE, microsoft specific java code and the
version that I can get to work in linux (which is a full version).it seems to
me that everyone who uses java code needs to be operating on the same
standards. this would eliminate a lot of problems, especially for us OS X
screen reader users. to give you guys an idea how bad it is, I can't even give
site feedback because their javascript opens a frame that locks you in a loop
trying to fill out the required text fields.
-eric
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